Thursday, May 31, 2007

Types of visas

This perhaps is one of the most important things you should be aware of before you come to the kingdom. Every work visa is associated with a profession, eg., doctor, engineer, nurse, teacher, carpenter, etc. You must be absolutely sure about your job title mentioned in your visa. It will be in Arabic, so you will have to get the help of someone who knows Arabic fluently to know its "exact" meaning. Confused? :-/ Read on. Every sponsor is given some visas by the Saudi government. Unfortunately, the profession or the trade mentioned in the visa need not necessarily be the job you are supposed to do, though officially this is not the case. In 9 out of 10 cases, the sponsor just grabs whatever visa is available and brings expats into the kingdom on that particular visa. For example, let's say a sponsor has a visa for a plumber. However, he may not be needing a plumber but rather an engineer. Since he was given only a plumber visa by the government, he would try to bring the expat on whatever visa is available. However, the catch is that the expat coming into the kingdom, blissfully unaware of this, will be in deep trouble when he wants to bring his family. Only certain trades can bring their familieis. The Saudi government has decided that only those who can afford to bring their families should do so (which is right to a certain extent). Hence, a labourer / helper will not be eligible to bring his family, nor can he obtain a multiple exit/reentry visa (more about this later) for weekend trips to Bahrain. So, if an engineer comes to Saudi on a helper visa, it is impossible for him to bring his family, because on paper he is still a helper, no matter what his qualification or experience is :( There was this classic case of the principal of the Indian school, a Phd and with 25 years experience. Unfortunately, he could not bring his family to the kingdom as he was on a painter visa. Since on record he was a painter hence was not eligible to bring his family. Despite moving pillar to post, he was unsuccessful in getting his profession changed and finally had to quit his job in utter frustration and go back to his home country :((

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Gita said...

This is the kind of honest and straightforward advice people need before applying for any kind of work visa. Looking forward to more helpful post

Geetha

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andrea said...

i would like to inquire on how to get my 8months baby boy here in saudi arabia. i am holding a dependent residence visa from my father. my sponsorship is under my father. so is there any way that i can get my son here as my or my fathers dependent pls reply. thanks!

Expatguru said...

Andrea,

Normally, if the husband is the sponsor, there should be no problem in getting your son into the kingdom. In your case, your father is your sponsor. The only problem I see is to prove to the Passport Department the relationship between the grandfather and grandson. (Had your sponsor been your husband, your marriage certificate and the birth certificate of your son would have been adequate). In your case, I presume that your passport (which should give your father's name) and your son's birth certificate (which must have your name) are proof enough. In any event, the sponsor has to be your father, as you yourself are his dependant.

Anonymous said...

Can i bring my newly born baby on my wife's visa? Or does he need seprate visa?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

You need a separate passport and hence a separate visa for your baby.

ata ul said...

i am working in KSA and i have a valid IQAMA, can i bring my grand father on visit visa.

Expatguru said...

Ata ul,

It depends on the type of your visa. If you have your family with you in the kingdom, it becomes easier. If you are on a labor visa or any other non-supervisory profession mentioned in your iqama, you will not be able to sponsor anyone on visit visa.

Anonymous said...

Dear expatguru,

I've have the choice of choosing between an AC Technician visa or a Decor Technician visa, however I'm a Pakistani with a Mechanical Engineering degree from the US. My degree is attested. Can my degree be utilized for this type of technical visa when I want to get the permanent residency visa issued for my family,

Thank you
Zia

Expatguru said...

Zia,

If you have an engineering degree, you might as well come here on an engineer visa, which has its own benefits. I would strongly advise you not to come on either of the visas you have mentioned, because you have a qualification which is better than these.

Anonymous said...

In the name Of Allah,AssalamuAlaikum. My Iqama professional is General Electician so can i bring my family by Family resident visa...

Expatguru said...

No, you cannot bring your family as your job category is non-supervisory.

Anonymous said...

Dear expatguru,

1. If a person is on a technician visa, does he have to produce his diploma at the time of applying for permanent family visa.

2. What if the diploma/degree does not match the profession (assuming supervisory)mentioned on the Iqama. Does it matter?

Thanks... great work!!

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

You MUST get your qualification certificate attested by the Saudi Embassy in your country for processing permanent family visa.

It DOES matter if the qualification does not match with the iqama profession and for sure it will get rejected at the embassy.

Anonymous said...

Dear Guru,

My profession in iqama is "TRANSLATOR" and I am holding a bachelor of arts in English Literature attested by saudi consulate. Can I bring my family. Thanks

Expatguru said...

Yes, by all means. You are a degree holder and should not have any problem in bringing your family.

Anonymous said...

Dear expatguru,

Thank you for the prompt reply. This is in continuation to my post dated Oct 12th and your reply dated Oct 13th. My degree is already attested. The issue is that the profession on degree does not match to that of iqama (degree is engineering and iqama is technician). My question is only regarding when I go to SA and apply for family visa. Would there be a problem ?

Anonymous said...

Dear expatguru,

Thankyou for the prompt reply. This is in continuation to my post dated Oct 12th and your reply dated Oct 13th. My degree is already attested. The issue is that the profession on degree does not match to that of iqama (degree is engineering and iqama is technician). My question is only regarding when I go to SA and apply for family visa. Would there be a problem ?

Thankyou once again..

Expatguru said...

No, you should not have a problem as technicians are allowed to bring their families.

Anonymous said...

Hi,

I am working as programmer here in saudi arabia but i am on general electrician visa. My employer said to me in email that the visa which he is sending is only for visa processing..
rest he told on phone that he will change it in 2 months after my arrival in kingdom.
now when i am here, he says it will take 1 year to get this changed and says saudi gov. has changed the rule of changing profession within a year..
i have my master degree attested.

1. can it be a legal issue against my employer if want to do some legal against it?
(i have his email in which he only said this is just for visa processing ) about changing in 2 month he said to me on phone for which i don't have any prove against him

2. can i bring my wife on visit in current scenario...

waiting for your response..

Regards,
Khurram Shahzad

Expatguru said...

Khurram Shahzad,

I really feel sorry for your situation. This is a typical case of betrayal. Unfortunately, you cannot sponsor your wife with this profession. You have no legal rights, as an email promise will not hold good in a labor court. Atleast in your case it was only the job profession problem. As you may be aware, there are some sponsors who do not even pay the salaries on time or pay an amount far less than what was agreed. You better start looking out for another job. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

hi I like ur blog very much but i have few more question like my profession on my Iqama is FANNI KAHARBAI is I am elegible to bring my family here either permanently or on visit visa please reply

regards
Junaid Ahmed
juahmed@gmail.com

Expatguru said...

Junaid,

Unfortunately you cannot bring your family in this category. If you have a degree or a diploma, try to get your profession changed into some other supervisory category.

Anonymous said...

Dear expatguru..
I am working in Jeddah, when i want to renew my driving licence there is problem with the name of Iqama, before was no any problem. How i know that my name is not same in Jawazat office ? May i check through Internet ?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Please involve your company's Government Relations Officer. He should fill in a form (available in Passport office) and make corrections to the name in your iqama / system if there is any error. Do not try to do it yourself as they will not even entertain you.

raj said...

Dear Expatguru,

A very useful blog. Thanks.

I am an engineer fortunately came under same visa. My wife is working in International Indian school and I have two kids. The new one is two months old. All are under my Iqama.

Is it possible for me to bring a housemaid from india? I went to many people and all are telling different requirements. Can you please tell me how can I bring a servant from India.

Thanks once again ...Great work..

Expatguru said...

Raj,

You can only sponsor your family members, i.e., either your spouse or children. The definition of "family" does not even include one's parents or siblings. Hence, it is not possible to legally bring someone, even on a visit visa, as a domestic help. The housemaids you see may be doing part-time work or may be runaways from their original sponsors.

najeeb said...

iam working in saudi arabia,i would like to change my profession, now my profession is house driver . but i'm working as network administrator. i have a profeesionl degree and mcp and ccna certification too, tell me what i do for change my profession.Is it possible? if anybody knows please reply

Expatguru said...

Najeeb,

First get all your certificates attested by the Saudi Embassy in your home country and translated in Arabic. Next, through your sponsor, fill in the relevant form and submit all the documents for profession change, along with your original iqama. That's all.

Sarim Farooqi said...

Dear Sir,

Thanks a lot for your usefull helping blog...

im working here in KSA as accountant, but my trade in visa is "malaeyas" in english i think its meson. can i bring my wife and childeran to here either permanently or on visit visa.
if so than what is the procedure.

Please advice me in details thanks a lot for your kind information.

regards,

Farooqi

zaidfarooq.zaidi@gmail.com

Expatguru said...

Farooqi,

You are not eligible to bring your family. Please change your profession first.

sunil.R said...

dear guru,
iam new in saudiarabia.i reached here on last month.now iam on house driver visa, everybody is telling that this visa profession holders can't change the profession. is it possible? my sponsor is also telling the same thing.he is telling if it is possible he is ready to change my profession.i have only pre-degree and some computer related certificates.here i got a job offer from another company after knowing my visa status they refuse me,what i will do for changing house driver visa to some other profession?please send me the details

Expatguru said...

Sunil,

You do not have either a degree or a diploma. The computer certificates you have will not be attested by the Saudi Embassy as I presume that they have not been obtained from any University. Unfortunately, you will not be able to change your profession due to this.

shajahan said...

i have a mini super market inside a petrol station in riyadh,before two months it was working for 24 hours now police is not allowing after midnight,from where i will get 24 hour working permission, is it through municipality or police?what are the procedures for getting 24 hour work permit? please help me

najeeb khan said...

sir,
im working here in KSA, but my trade in visa is "kaarbaayi aam" actually i dont know what is this kaarbaayi aam ?can i bring my wife and childeran to here either permanently or on visit visa,is it possible?
if so than what is the procedure.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,
I have been KSA for last two weeks and hoping to have my Iqama in comming 4/5 days. Now I would like to initiate for my wife visa. I am working as an IT Manager and my profession mentioned is Computer Programmer. I want to know the cost for my wife's visa and who would pay that amount. Please explaon. Regards, Imran.

Expatguru said...

Shahjahan,

Obviously the supermarket is in the name of your sponsor. Please ask him to apply for permission from the municipality for a 24-hour permit. He should be the one getting this for you, even though you may have to pay the costs involved for this.

Expatguru said...

Najeeb,

"Khaarabaayi Aam" means a general electrician. You cannot bring your family in this profession. Please get it changed to some other supervisory title. If you are a diploma holder, try to get it changed as an electrical technician, which is eligible for family status.

Expatguru said...

Imran,

If your contract offers family status, all the expenses in bringing your family into the kingdom has to be borne by your sponsor. Please see this link for further details.

http://workinginsaudiarabia.blogspot.com/2008/08/permanent-family-visa-for-saudi-arabia.html

Irfan Ansari said...

Hi,

I have not a graduate degree, but have 9 year experience as a Deputy Manager projects in a software house. Now, I m going to saudia on a Plumber Visa. what would be the process for me to change the profession from plubmer to computer professional. I have only intermediate degree plus working experience certificate (9 year) as a deputy manager projects in a software house.

Thanks,
Best Regards,
Irfan Ansari

Expatguru said...

Irfan,

If you are still out of Saudi Arabia and want a family status, it is impossible to get it if you are on a plumber visa. It doesn't matter whether you really are a plumber or not, the guy sitting in the immigration just sees what is mentioned in your visa. Either you do not accept this offer or take an offer who can give a visa in supervisory category. Coming to the kingdom and changing it from plumber to supervisory category is extremely difficult and near-impossible, since you do not have a degree or a diploma.

Anonymous said...

Hii,

I am Hemant resident of India-Andhra Pradesh. I have Electronic Technicians visa. My question is will i be able to get my wife to Saudi Arabia-Jeddah after my iqama is made?

If i can, please tell me the procedure to it?

I hold a Software Engineers Degree, which is different from my job title in my visa.

And suppose i have my baby born in saudi arabia will his name be automatically included in my iqama?

I also want to change my job title in my iqama after reaching jeddah, please tell me how can i...

Hoping to get your response as early as possible as i am really curious to know all this.

Regards,

Hemant Jitendra pandya.


PS: Man the information in this blog is really really good. So far the best i read. Keep up the good work.

Expatguru said...

Hemant,

You are entitled to bring your family. For your other queries, read my entire blog and you will find the answers. From the calendar on the right hand side, choose a particular month in the drop down menu and select a topic which I have written in that particular month.

Sarfaraz said...

Salam,
Dear Expat guru...
You have done gr8 job....allah will bless you...
Now my query is that.I got job as chemical sales engineer in KSA.All benefits which you have mentioned that they should be in contract, are present in my offer letter.Now I got visa for initial three month as mechanical drughtman. My employer and agent told me that they will change my profession later.As they told me to attested my degree certificate by HRD,GAD,MEA & Saudi embassy.Now we have done all attestation.So my agent told me to trust them cause now by this attestation they will change my permanent visa profession so I can bring my family there.
now plz tell me that "mechanical drughtman" can bring family or by my degree certificate am I eligible to bring my family as per commitment by my employer.

Waiting for your valuable reply.
Thanks in advanced.

Sarfaraz
sarfaraz8685@gmail.com

Expatguru said...

Sarfaraz,

Don't get fooled by verbal assurances. If your company can change the profession after landing in the kingdom, why cant they do it right now? The fact is that changing the profession is quite a lengthy and complicated procedure. You should not join this company unless they give you a visa which is eligible to bring your family. A draughtsman cannot sponsor his family.

Rehan Khan said...

Dear ExpatGuru
You are doing a great job.. may Allah bless you ...

Boss! I have a 3 year diploma or associate engineer in computer science which is attested from my home country about 5 years ago, and it has been re-attested by the saudia foreign affair about 3 years ago, while I was transferring my sponsor ship to my current sponsor, at that time my company just change the sponsor ship but didn’t change my profession at that time.

My question is # At present my profession is plumber and now I would like to change my profession to computer engineer, since the attestation get so old will the Jawazat office will accept these documents or should I need to re-attest these documents.
Can I sponsor my mother after If I change my profession … ?

What Jawazat do if they reject to change the profession.

Waiting for you reply:
Thank You.

Rehan Khan
KSA.

Expatguru said...

Rehan Khan,

There is no time limit. Once your papers are attested, it is done for life. So go ahead and get your profession changed right away.

Rahuk Bose said...

Dear ExpatsGru

What Saudi labour is doing if they found any unauthorised degree,

I mean, what is action is to be taken according to labour law of Saudia Arabia, If person found a false attestation or the documents.

Waiting for you reply
Rahul Bose

Expatguru said...

Rahul Bose,

It is precisely for this reason that the Saudi Embassies all over the world require an attestation from the respective Human Resources Ministries or their equivalents to prove the genuineness of the documents. It becomes almost impossible to prove or disprove a certificate's authenticity otherwise. At a later date, if it is proved that a certificate is not genuine (which is going to be a herculean task), it becomes a criminal case. This is not covered under Labor Law, but will be handled by the police separately as a criminal offence.

Jameel said...

Dear Expatguru
How jawazat ki verifying the attested documents.

Do you what how many steps are saudi jawzat taking for verifying the documents after the attestation completed from the home country.

And how much does it cost.

Expatguru said...

Jameel,

Saudi Jawasat never does the attestation. It is done by the HRD Ministry in your home country, attested by the Ministry of External Affairs and counter-attested by the Saudi Embassy in your country.

Anonymous said...

Dear,

I need an advice.

My profession in iqama is programmer, and have family visa. My wife delivered in India, and the kid is 5 months now.

Is it possible to bring him without visa. (I heard that we can bring him and then obtain visa within a month)

Ur adivce is needed.

Regards

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Yes, what you heard is right. Only make sure that your child has a separate passport.

Akram Sajjad said...

Dear

I have a three years of diploma in computer science which is attested by the Saudi sansulate of my home country and re-attested by the forign affair of KSA Dammam

Will it enough to change my profession to computer technician.?

Thank You

Expatguru said...

Akram,

Yes, this is adequate.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for ur advise.....

Abu Abdullah said...

Dear Expat Guru,
Thanks for the valuable advice and the service you are rendering to the expat community in Saudi Arabia.

Sir, My Iqama is "Computer Technician" "Fanni Hasib Aali".
I have obtained Advanced Diploma in Software Engineering from a private computer institute "Aptech" in India.
I have not yet attested the diploma documents.

Now i have the following questions:
1. Can i have my documents attested here in Saudi Arabia. If not here where and how should it be attested.

2. Will my Profession and Education be a problem when i call my wife here.

3. My Wife is an American Citizen with American Passport residing in India on a tourist visa. Can she apply for the Saudi visa after i send her the documents from MoFA.

Thank you sir for your help. Your Service is much appreciated.

Thank you,
Regards

Expatguru said...

Abu Abdullah,

To my knowledge, the HRD Ministry does not attest certificates from private institutions. Read my post on attestation, from the archives of this blog where all the details have been given.

Anonymous said...

Expatguru,

you are definitely doing favors to a lot of people. Keep up the good work.

meanwhile, my inquiry is regarding my employment prospect in KSA. I am coming to KSA thru an employment visa (Plumber) that I can transfer to any future employer, though I am a Diploma and Degree Holder. I have made this arrangement to make my stay in KSA legal. Reason is, most employers prefer transferable iqama status. I have over 10 years GCC working experience. What would you advise as far as my visa transfer, and expectations I should have and issues I may encounter.

I would appreciate your usual helpful advice.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Think twice before making your decision. You are a graduate and having enough experience in the GCC. There is absolutely no need for you to be so desparate to somehow enter KSA, even if it means a plumber visa. Remember that these days, changing the profession has become extremely difficult. Also note that you cannot bring your family on this visa, nor can you get the fringe benefits such as going to neighbouring GCC countries on a short holiday. Whatever be your actual profession, as far as the legal and immigration systems are concerned, you would still be considered a plumber. The decision is yours.

Anonymous said...

DEAR GURU SIR,
I AM WORKING IN SAUDI AS A MECH-ENGINEER. BUT VISA POFFESITION IS "WATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATOR" IS IT POSSIBLE TO BRING MY FAMILY TO HERE? I AM A DIPLOMA HOLDER. PLEASE EXPLAIN ME ABOUT THIS

WITH KIND REGARDS,
N.BOOPATHI
boopathi@mepco.biz

Expatguru said...

Boopathi,

You cannot bring your family as long as the profession in your iqama is an "Operator". Since you are a diploma holder, try changing your iqama profession to any supervisory category. This should be done after getting your diploma attested by the Ministry of External Affairs, New Delhi and the Saudi Embassy.

Omega said...

Hi,

Thanks for the valuable information you are sharing with.

My friends want to bring his family on this profession "AMIL MAYMARI"...can you please let me know about that can he or not?

Expatguru said...

Omega,

No, this profession is not eligible to bring his family.

Anonymous said...

my Visa is auto Electrician Am i allow to bring family in KSA

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

You cannot bring your family in this category.

Suhaib said...

Salam Bro,
Great Blog!
Heres my case -
i have been offered a visa by profession Manzil karbai , which i found out to be building electrician ..
now my queries -
1. is the translation right?
2. they say its transferable, is this right?
3. i have a Bachelors degree in Computer Engg, so would it be a prob later in changing the profession?.
4. After the professions changed i can bring my family there right?

waiting for your replies,
Thanks
Suhaib

Expatguru said...

Suhaib,

Your category is a building electrician. This is a transferable visa. Once you are transferred to another sponsor, it depends on him and the effort he puts on to change your profession into an engineer visa, to enable you to bring your family. Read my post on changing profession.

Suhaib said...

Thanks a Zillion Guruji :)

Nile Shah said...

I am CA from India and joined one co in KSA. My Iqama shows Chemical technisian. With this whether
1)I will able to bring my family?
2) I will be visting my cousin in UAE and behrain frequently whether i will able to get visa on arrival in uae and bahrain?
I had gone through your all blogs and I can say it works as an encyclopedia for any one wants to work in KSA.
I will be more then happy If i can be of any use in this regard.
Thanks
Nilesh Shah

Expatguru said...

Nilesh,

You are eligible to sponsor your family on a technician visa. You can visit Bahrain and will get a visa on arrival by paying SR20. For the UAE, the visa charges are approximately DH110, but they are very fussy about your visa profession. I am not sure whether they would allow you into the UAE with this profession. For Bahrain, all Indians get a visa on arrival.

Anonymous said...

Hi,
Through Kariman enterprises, I attended a MOH interview for doctors by Saudi delegates at kochi.
The agency has collected my original educational certificates after HRD & MEA attestation for attestation in Saudi embassy, Delhi. They say that the certificates after attestaion is with the embassy and its safe.

My questions- 1. Will the Saudi embassy attest certificates without an appointment(job) order from MOH?
2. Does the embassy retain the certificates after attestation, till the completion of my other visa procedures like Medical exam?

Please help me with my query.
Warm Regards,
rjn.bds@gmail.com

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Saudi Embassy simply endorses the signature and seal of the HRD Ministry. It takes a maximum of 2 working days to get this done and has nothing to do with your appointment letter or other formalities. In all probability, the certificates are with your agent.

Anonymous said...

Hi,
I happen to come across this blog and found this is really praise worthy.
I 'ld like ask something about family visa.

My wife recently got job in Saudi as a nurse in MOH. I am planning to move to Saudi in the immediate future. I have my graduation in English literature from India. My question is, "Is my wife eligible for bringing me to KSA, under family visa ?" If not, What will be the ideal visa for me to proceed ?

Thanks in advance!

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Thanks for your comments. In case your wife's employer is offering her a family status, then you can join her as a dependent (permanent family visa). Note, however, that you cannot work in the kingdom and would have to stay at home. If this is okay with you, then ask your wife to accept the offer. The only other way is for you to get a job in the same city as which your wife is working. Of course, there would be separate sponsors for each of you. Think of all the consequences and possibilities before accepting any offer.

satz said...

Hi,
I am thinking about getting a job in Jizan. I was searching for a job portal with sufficient information on job possibilities in Jizan, but hardly found any. :(

Can you share any of the useful links(websites) or explain which are the possible jobs in high demand in Jizan area?

I also would request you to share any of the job consulting agents to Jizan area in India?

Thanks...

Expatguru said...

Satz,

Jizan is one of the backward areas of Saudi Arabia with not much development. There are no websites catering only to jobs in Jizan area. There are job sites which cater to the Middle East. One of them is given in the top left hand side corner of this blog. You just have to keep trying. Good luck!

farees said...

Hi,
I came across this blog and found this is really praise worthy.
keep up the good job man. mashallah.
well my concern is about my visa profession its says "kaharbe mabanee" and on iqama it is "kaharbae"

so please gime ur view of family visa status

Expatguru said...

Farees,

Thanks for your comments. "Kaharbe mabanee" means literally "Electrical Civil". Rather, it would mean as a house electrician when roughly translated. Unfortunately, this title is not eligible to sponsor a family.

Hermanto St. Pangeran said...

Dear Expatguru
I already ask to any one and browsing any blog, fainally I found this Live Encyclopedy for me.
I get jobs offering in Saudi as Boiler Operator and will be interviewed soon(the only one I get now).
I am holding Degree of Science in Chemistry.
How to make my visa being possible to bring my wife to Saudi?
Can my sponsor offering me the family Visa with this profesion/ position?
Is there the minimum salary to get the family visa?

Thanks in advance

Best Regards,
St. Pangeran
Indonesia

Expatguru said...

St.Pangeran,

If the profession in your iqama is an "operator", you will not be entitled to bring your family, whatever be your salary. So, what matters is the visa profession, not your job title. Check with your prospective employer whether he is giving you a supervisory category visa, otherwise you can neither bring your family nor can change your profession after reaching here.

Hermanto St. Pangeran said...

Dear Expat Guru,Thanks for the valuable advice.
Could you please translate some the arabic profession to englih.

thanks,
St pangeran

Anonymous said...

Dear Expatguru,
I have given offer letter as Lecturer to work in Saudi and family status, Will I be able to bring my family there.

Kindly inform at vinchu_chawla@yahoo.com
Will be very grateful
Thanks and Regards,

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

It does not matter what your offer letter says. What is the profession mentioned in your visa? Get it translated from Arabic first. If it is a non-supervisory category like labour, carpenter, painter, etc., you will not be eligible to bring your family.

As a policy I do not respond to individual emails and also do not reveal my personal email id. The only way to contact me is through the comment form.

Anonymous said...

Dear expat guru,

I am currently working here in Riyadh as a Service Administrator (supervisory position) for an Automotive dealership, however i was given a laborer visa. I have completed a 3 year Automotive Technician diploma. Will i be eligible to bring my family on a permanent residence visa here in KSA should i change my profession based on my qualification? My current salary is 7k.

Would need your honest advise.

thanks

georgie

Expatguru said...

Georgie,

Irrespective of your actual profession, if your iqama profession is a labour, you will be able to neither change your profession nor sponsor your family. In the earlier days, you could atleast change your profession, but for the past few months, the passport office is not encouraging such cases.

mohammed said...

Dear ExpatGuru

My proffession is House Electrician on iqama , i know its not in the list but sometimes in some cases of this same proffession they are issuing the family visa , it depends upon the official mood i hope , so to be on safe side can i change my proffession and i heard changing proffession on iqama is not enough as they will check on which visa we came initially is it right , and why the saudi government putting so much restrictions on issuing a visa to a person who is capable of sponsering his family and in turn it is good for there country and citzens because they can save in foreign Exhcange if most of the expats starting spending money in there country instead of sending back home and even they spend on house rents which benifits there own citizens we need to translate this whol blog of yours in arabic and psot it to the concerned authorities at least than they can think over it and feel the pain so many are undergoing

Expatguru said...

You are absolutely right. It totally depends on their mood. For the last 2 months they are not even allowing changing the profession from non-supervisory to supervisory category. No one knows the reason, it is just their mood. Regarding the foreign exchange part, they have enough oil money and so do not need any other money. The best way is for you as an individual to decide whether it is really worth staying here without a family or not. This is purely an individual decision.

Anonymous said...

dear expat guru,

thank you for your honest advise. Im very glad that i came across this blog a few months before my contract expires. At least i can weigh things out earlier should i continue with my employment in this company or not.

thank you

regards

georgie

Anonymous said...

Excellent Work, Expat Guru !!

I was working at a very senior position in a major construction company in KSA.

Two year back, I resigned and formed my own construction company in Dubai in a partnership.

Due to extraordinary prevailing crisis, I have now decided to act as a sleeping partner (already agreed with my partner) in order to reduce overheads.

At the same time, I have recieved a formal offer letter from my previous employer in KSA for the same position I was working earlier.

I really would like to go for this opportunity. But, I have heard that one cannot maintain UAE "Partner" Visa as well as Iqama in KSA, at the same time, as per Saudi Regulations.

Please advise, as I cannot compromise on my share as well as legal status in the company. Neither do I wanted to cancel my "Partner Visa" at any cost.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

You have to let go of any one of the two options. You cannot have one leg in two boats and sail.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Expatguru.

Just another question.

At what stage will Saudi Authority ask me to cancel my "Partner Visa" of UAE. During processing my professional visa at Saudi Consulate or during processing my Iqama.

FYI, I am about to submit my passport at the consulate within 2 to 3 days.

Expatguru said...

It will most likely be done while your visa is being processed. If not, for sure it would be noticed while your iqama is being processed.

Muhammed Kashif Qadri Rizvi Ziai Attari said...

Dear Expat Guru,

In your post dated October 12, 2008 10:57 PM you wrote that "It DOES matter if the qualification does not match with the iqama profession and for sure it will get rejected at the embassy". In this regard i would like to know that i have been offered the working visa as "Marketing Specialist" but the qualification that i hold is "3 Years Diploma in Industrial Electronic Engineering" and also "Bachelor of Science in Physics, Chemistry and Maths". With this qualification whether i shall be rejected by Embassy for "Marketing Specialist visa". Also i possess an experience of around 10 years as marketing specialist in a recognized organization in Kuwait whether this experience along with above qualifications will suffice for the said profession?

Althouhg i am originally indian.

Best regards,
Muhammad

Expatguru said...

Muhammad,

The Saudi immigration authorities honestly don't care about your experience. What they see is whether the profession mentioned in the visa matches with the qualification certificates which you have attached. Another factor is the influence or 'wasta' which the company has. The problem is that nothing is written in black and white on what to approve and what not to, so unless you really have the visa in your hands, you are not sure. If your company has offered you this visa, obviously they would take care of seeing it through, so don't worry. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Dear Expatguru,

Thanks for your tremendous effort in provide quality guidance.

My company is offering me Marketing Specialist Profession in my Iqama. Is this eligible for Family Visa.

If not please tell me the ones you know are eligible. Remember that my degree is MBA (Majors in Marketing) and the company is a Marketing Firm. I got to know that the company also have other visas available related to Marketing. Tell me which one should I ask for if not Marketing Specialist?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

If your company is offering you a family status, then it hardly matters what the profession is, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

Hi Expatguru, I really find your blog so enlightening. My husband and I are applying for a family visa to Saudi Arabia. We have gathered all the necessary documents and have it attested by the concerned agencies. His profession in his iqama is "Mechanical Technician" but he's a "Management" degree holder. The officer at the visa office rejected our application due the reason that his degree does not match his profession. His company is considering to change the profession in his iqama. Based on his degree, what profession would you recommend that he change it into? Would a Sales Engineer or a Marketing Specialist do? Thank you so much and I am looking forward for your prompt reply for it'll be of great help to us...

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

I guess you don't have much of a choice. It all depends on which category of visas your husband's company has. To enlighten you on this, every company will be given a certain number of visas in certain professions based on the business they do. This is normally given at the beginning of each Hijri year. It is not that you can simply choose whichever category of visa you want, I really wish things were that simple! Ask your husband to follow up with his employer and get a suitable "supervisory" category visa before re-applying.

Jaison said...

Great work,

Really helpful for all,
thanks a lot for all the efforts.

Hats off,
Jaison

Anand said...

Dear Expatguru,

I am anandhakumar and i got a offer in Riyadh as a Accountant with the salary of SR7500 per month and 3 months basic salary for house rent. Is it a good salary? what is ideally a good salary for 10 years experienced cost accountant? i would like to know the cost of living and work culture in Riyadh. i have a temp visa stamped in my passport which is valid for 3 months and i need to enter the riyadh before end of May 2009. i have a contract for 2 years, when i would get my permanatant visa?

Expatguru said...

Anand,

I cannot comment on what is a "good" salary - it totally depends on what you are looking for. All I can say is that the house rent allowance will be adequate to cover a 2-bedroom house, but you will not be able to save anything on it as the entire HRA would go for the rent. Also, please carefully get your visa profession translated, in case you are planning to bring your family.

YOUSUF MOHAMMED said...

Thanks a lot for priceless information you put on ths site. i whould like ask you i have my profession in my resident permit written as Technical Consultant (mMusthashar Khidmath faniyya) is it a profession categories as good profession where i can bring family and get multiple re-entry without any hurdle?

Expatguru said...

Yousuf,

You are entitled for both of these.

Rizwan said...

Hi Expat Guru
I have been living in KSA for 10 years as a student but after completion of my studies i got job in KSA and i took trnsfer & changed profession from student to work visa and my sponcer is making my profession Sales representative.Can i bring my family on this profession although i got family status by having 6000 basic salary

Expatguru said...

Rizwan,

Yes, you are entitled to bring your family.

sirak said...

in ur blog u say technicians are allowed to get permanent family visas. my profession in iqama is "FANNI ELECTRONIC". Yesterday i went to Ministry of Interior with my certificates attested by saudi embassy in india to apply for family permanent visa. but the authority there rejected my application saying technicians are not allowed permanent family visa. HAVE THEY CHANGED THE RULES?? please reply at the earliest.

regards,
sk.

Expatguru said...

Sirak,

This seems to be a new trend, particularly in Riyadh region. I do know people who are on technician visas and who are with their families.Looks like you just had bad luck. Do try one more time after a few days. Good luck.

Abu Abdullah said...

Yes, with reference Sirak, even my friend who is a technician had his application rejected last week....

Expatguru said...

Abu Abdullah,

Hmmm. This seems to be a new development. It is impossible to predict their mood. But it appears this problem is only in Riyadh. Will have to get feedback from others also.

Anonymous said...

Salamalaikum,

I am very glad to know about this blog and go through all the rules and regulation of K.S.A. Shukriya, for this great great work. By going through this I also want to have my Longest querry of the Blog before you.

1. I came to Saudi about 8 years back on (General Labor) catergory (so called Azaad)visa. After I got the job in a Multinational company I changed my Sponsorship to a new sponsor as my previous sponsor was not good.

2. The new sponsor told me unless I have a Programmer or an Engineer profession he can't take me under his sponsorship as his Company catergory is of an "Engineering Group". So I changed my profession from "General Labor" to "Computer Programmer". Also my new sponsor happily took me in his sponsorship after changing the Profession.

3. I know @ the time of changing the Profession and Change of Sposorship it goes through the Labour Office and then it travels through Passport office for the changes in Computer System. The stickers for change of Profession and Change of Sponsorship was attached to my Iqama and Passport, Alhamdullillah.

4. My question now is after the change of Sponsorship I didn't have a Labor Card with my new Profession on it. I know this is very Important.

5. The thing is my Kafil use to give the required papers and tell me to make Iqama through any of the General Services. I use to pay for my Iqama for every 2 years and who ever made the Iqama used Waasta and never made my Labor Card and this continued till today.

6. But I heard now that without Labor Card Iqama renewal is a little bit difficult. I now want to go through a proper channel to make my Labor Card and then renew my Iqama. My Kafil will give me all the Paper for making the Labor Card as well as Iqama.

7. What is the process for making the Labor card. How should we approach the Labor Office now and what papers are needed so I can take it from my Kafil. He is ready to help & will give me the required papers but tells me to do it all by myself. So Please help me and our brothers who also faces the same type of problem in this regard and Sorry for this longest Querry.

Waiting eagerly for your reply.
Thanks again.

MAK.

Expatguru said...

MAK,

You have landed yourself into quite a mess. Labour card is a must for any iqama renewal and I dont understand why your current sponsor did not bother to make it. It costs only SR150. Since your sponsor has agreed to support you, the best way is to simply outsource the whole thing. Give your current iqama, pay the money to any of the agents and he will get it done for you.

sirak said...

can u confirm that are they issuing permanent family visas to technicians in other cities i.e. other than riyadh?
request you to use your sources and reply at the earliest.

sk

Expatguru said...

SK,

In Jubail and Dammam regions, they don't make such a big fuss about it. I have been getting feedback that this is a problem in Riyadh region. You can try your luck in any other place. Ultimately, it depends on the mood of the guy stamping the visa, because there is no written rule. Good luck.

Krishna said...

Expatguru,
Thanks for your excellent commitment towards the people who are working / who wants to work in KSA.
I have received the visa for a job in KSA. While signing visa application form I checked that it was mentioned as Project Engineer visa. But I am going to work for another company as a Process engineer through this consultancy.
In the visa copy that is the stamped copy in Passport there is no info about the profession. May be there in arabic, But how to check it out ?
I am asking this because I need to bring the family to KSA as soon as possible.

Expatguru said...

Krishna,

I am glad you asked this question. The profession would definitely be mentioned in Arabic in the visa which is stamped in your passport. Go to someone who knows Arabic and get it translated. If it is not a supervisory category, you will never be able to bring your family here, irrespective of your actual designation.

Anonymous said...

Dear Expat Guru,

what is the issue of Polio Certificate to be produce for kids while Visa endorsment at Saudi embassy.

I look for it at your site but could not find i think it is not discussed at all.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

I did not understand your question correctly. If the Saudi embassy requires you to produce a polio certificate, you must do so. But what is your query?

K. Shravanth Gudivada said...

dear sir can u please clarify me a doubt that i had been ofered a job in Riyadh as an 'architect'/ architectural designer engg.' then what woulb me menstioned on the visa i.e in arabic. can u please let know and can i bring my famaly on that visa if my sponser allows.

with regards
shravanth

Expatguru said...

Shravanth,

It is actually the other way round. Once you get a visa, you should get it translated and see whether it matches with the profession you are going to work as. I do not know Arabic, but if your visa is of any supervisory category, you would be eligible to bring your family.

Anonymous said...

DEAR EXPATGURU,
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME YOU SPEND ANSWERING ALL OUR QUESTIONS.
HERE IS MINE- IF I AM GIVEN VISA WITH NON-SUPERVISORY PROFESSION TITLE ALTHOUGH MY PROFESSION IS LETS SAY A DOCTOR, DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE TO ACCEPT THIS VISA AND PROPOSE CORRECT VISA TYPE?>OR IT MEANS TOO MUCH HASSLE FOR THE SPONSOR AND POSSIBLE REJECTION OF MY APPLICATION?THANK YOU.ALL THE BEST.ANDREW

Expatguru said...

Andrew,

You will probably have your application rejected. It is up to you to either accept an offer or reject it, because visa profession definitely IS a big problem here in Saudi.

Anonymous said...

THANKS FOR A PROMPT RESPONSE.
ONE MORE QUESTION REGARDING PROFFESION- DOES THIS AFEECT ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES BRINGING FAMILY MEMBERS OVER?ANDREW

Expatguru said...

Andrew,

You cannot visit any of the neighbouring GCC countries with a non-supervisory profession in your iqama.

Anonymous said...

Dear Expatguru,

Recently, I heard about a "free visa" concept. What does it really mean? My wife works in saudi, some of her co-workers told her that they brought their spouses on "Free visa".

What is the difference between the so called "Free visa" and other visas like, "visit visa".

Thanks in advance...

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

As you may be aware, you need a Saudi citizen or company to be your sponsor for you to legally work in the kingdom. In the earlier days, this rule used to be a gold mine for Saudis to make a quick buck. Some Saudis used to apply to the Government for certain visas on letterhead companies. Once they obtained such visas, they used to illegally sell those visas at a very high premium to desparate expats wanting to enter the kingdom. Those expats, after arriving in the kingdom, used to change their professions after finding some otber job. Not any more. The government has put a halt to such a racket and has now made it mandatory not to transfer visas within a year after arrival. Indulging in such so-called "free" visas is illegal and is fraught with risks.

khushbu said...

dear expat guru,

my husband is working in UAE at present and we (my kid and me )reside with him . due to some personal problems me and my kid are in India when my husband has an offer for a 6months project (which might get extended to 1 yr)in saudi. the company people say they have applied for business visa for all of us which if not done would require the regular visa to be applied.

my concern is are there any unseen and unexpected things regarding the visa tht we need to be aware of and question thecompany about before my husband joins? do you think the company is proceeding the right way to get me and my kid fast enough to Saudi?

Expatguru said...

Khushbu,

Note that with a business visa, you will have to go out of the country very frequently (probably once every month or so) unless it is a long-term visa which is unlikely. Also, if your kid is school-going, the education would get affected. Make a judicious decision before your husband accepts any offer.

Anonymous said...

Dear sir,am working as a nurse in saudi arabia with a single status visa,my husband is also working here with a labor visa,is there any posibility for us to bring our 2 kids in the kingdom.We as a parents will be their sponsor

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Unfortunately it is impossible to bring your kids with your current visa status.

Anonymous said...

Expatguru,
I would like to inquire if it is possible to apply visa for my children only. I have been separated with my wife for 5 years now. My family used to stay here before. My kids were born here and I have their birth certificate issued in Riyadh. I do not have the marriage contract because of the processing of my annulment. Will I be allowed to take them here with me?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

It certainly is possible to bring your kids. The fact that their birth certificates were issued in Riyadh makes things easier because the names of the parents would be on them. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

I am a Person of Arab Origin. I am happy to see your replies and clarity in replying. I have working in Saudi for the past 25 years and I have got a new Job with a competitor to our company. If my present company do not give me release letter or NOC I heard the Ban has been reduced to 6 months and after 6 months I can come on another resident visa. Can you please confirm the same or it is it a rumor I am hearing. If not how long I need to wait for getting entry to saudi with new Ikama.

Best Regards

Khaled

Expatguru said...

Khaled,

The NOC rule varies from one nationality to another. So, please check whether your country citizens require an NOC or not from the Saudi embassy in your country. If you do require one, then the following would apply:

1. In case you leave on EXIT only and do not have an NOC, you can return for employment one year after you have left the kingdom.

2. In case you leave on exit/reentry and want to return to work with another employer, you will have to wait for at least one year from the date of expiry of your iqama.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

I applied Family Visiting Visa in Ministry of Interion and passed to them all of my required documents like my pasport copy, my wife passport copy, my iqama number, their family visit visa form with chamber of commerce seal and my company letter with company seal and chamber of commerce seal. After I passed I received a green copy and white copy of their print out. Now I'm confusing if this is already the visit visa as some of them they told this is the visa already and some this is not. How I will confirm if this is the visa already as I can't check this in mofa website as this is different one. Can you plesase advise me sir.


Thanks,
Romeo

Expatguru said...

Romoeo,

You are supposed to apply to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and not to the Ministry of Interior. Please read the detailed procedure by clicking on this link.

http://workinginsaudiarabia.blogspot.com/2007/12/family-visit-visa.html

Anonymous said...

Dear Expatguru,

My wife obtain a visa for Saudi. She is a post graduate and her profession is Teacher. How can I live with her? She can bring me and my son to saudi?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Your wife can certainly sponsor you and your kid as her dependents on a permanent family visa, but remember that you cannot work as you would be considered her dependent.

Asik said...

Hi,

I am an enginner and working in a software concern in india.

I got offer in a software concern from Jeddah, saudi. but they telling to provide me house driver visa for job.

I have asked the reason, he replied that you were studied electronics engineer but working in software field. but As per saudi rules, we can not get computer visa as per your qualification.

I need your suggestion regarding visa process of saudi government.

And shall I go there with house driver visa ?

Thanks
Asik

Expatguru said...

Asik,

Please fill in your query using the form in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for this consultancy, which would ensure that you get a personalized reply.

sameer said...

Dear Sir,
I am working in Riyadh for last 1 ½ years in a Govt: Department as a Specialist. I have a Master Science but my certificates are not attested by Embassy. When I approach the Certificate attestation centre in my native, they told me to submit a valid offer letter from the company with the official seal of Chamber of Commerce & MOFA (Ministry of Foreign Affairs). So how can I get MOFA seal? Chamber of commerce seal is already there in my offer letter when they provide it to me. Please advise me where I want to go to get MOFA seal in my offer letter.
And how can we know whether there is any suitable Profession depending up on our Qualification. As an M.Sc holder in Geography, to which profession I can change?
Thanking You
Sameer

YnChiE said...

hi! i would like to ask something regarding family visa, how can my husband bring me and our child in the kingdom? his visa now was changed as labor but he is working as a brand manager in one of the famous company in KSA and his salary is good to sponsor us, and lastly what is the difference between visit visa and family visa? what visa can my husband acquire for us? thanks, your help will be highly appreciated.

Expatguru said...

YnChiE,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized and confidential reply by email.

Expatguru said...

Sameer,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized and confidential reply by email.

Leo said...

Dear Sir,
I have been diligently reading all your comments and the responses from the readers. ?It is indeed a commendable job that you are doing.
However, regarding the type of visas, i am a bit confused between supervisory and non-supervisory visas. For example, the profession in my visa is "Computer Technician" and I have all necessary supporting documents. Will I be able to sponsor my family ? Your reply will be highly appreciated and greatly helpful to me. thanks in advance !!
Leo

Expatguru said...

Leo,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed and personalized reply by email.

waheed baloch said...

Dear sir

i want to invest by money in KSA and wanna permanent visa for my family,please guide me about procedure and expenses about investment that how much will ne enough to invest,i am from pakistan

waheed baloch

Expatguru said...

Waheed,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,
I am working as a sales executive having degree certificate with me. as my igama status labour. now i going to get relese from my sponser, got a new job also. now i am going to change my profession. Actually i am Hindu my wife is muslim we dont have marriage certificate now. but i already include my wife name in my passport and her passport too. for geting family visa is it important to submit marriage certificate? while its already in our passport. please guide me. is it any problem if we both are different religion. please reply me. Thank you

By
Srisivam Selvarajan
sreesivam147@gmail.com

Expatguru said...

Srisivam,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized and confidential reply by email.

Muhammad Rizwan said...

Aoa,

Sir i would like to know the benefits related to ENGINEER Profession in detail as i couldn't find them all over internet. Please help me in this regard. I want to be specific regarding sponsoring my parents. Right now, i got job offer from SABIC as an Engineer, i want to know after coming to sauida, how much time it will take me to bring my parents with me. And can i do it twice in a year i mean for 3-4 months visit?

Please also let me know that can i send them family visit visa twice every year?

Expatguru said...

Rizwan,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

Anonymous said...

If i am on my lecturer visa (female candidate) and my father is on dependent visa for a contract of one year...Can my mother be allowed for dependent visa too, or only on visit visa. will my father's dependent visa will remain on dependent visa throughout the year, or if married within a year, my husband could be transferred that dependent visa

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

Cognos freek said...

Hello,

I just got an offer as a software eng from a Saudi company and they have sent me an offer letter. Does the offer should mention anything about a family visa. Although, they said I will get it.

Thanks,
Bob

Expatguru said...

Bob,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

Sreeku... said...

Dear Sir,

I am working in Saudi since 2005 as a mechanical engineer for a marine co. Now i would like to bring my wife to saudi with permanent or visiting visa. My profession on Iqama is "Mechanic safeena". Is it essential to bring my family? Also please tell me the names of best agencies doing the same service. Please give your valuable advce,
Best regards,
Sreekanth

Expatguru said...

Sreekanth,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

edmund said...

dear sir,

My iqama mentioned "laborer" i want to changed it. I was graduate Bachelor of Science in Information Technology. can i change my profession? and can i take also the permanent family visa for my wife, so she can also work here as well..she is a licensed teacher.how much it will cost? thank you..

Expatguru said...

Edmund,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

Anonymous said...

Dear sir...
My visa was supposedly denied due to not having a middle name. Is this proper grounds? I'm coming from the Philippines and had a job situated by a agency. Thank you for your assistance, I tried research on my own but limited information was available.

Expatguru said...

This may not be the real reason. I too do not have a middle name and have worked over 12 years in the kingdom. There must be something more to it than this reason.

Anonymous said...

Thanks sir... I was thinking the same thing but this is the answer they gave me... thank you for your time...

Anonymous said...

helo, sir i am a chem engr and i plan to get an independent visa for me, i am doubtful that i may get visa, that may be some technician oe any other trade.
I just ask how should i proceed to get my visa as chemical engr, and what steps i have to take here in pakistan and my sponsor in ksa,
plz reply as you have been tremendous for that, thanx

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

omar said...

Dear Expat Guru,
I am going to ksa (jeddah) for a the post sales representative jeddah, on a heavy duty driver visa. My questions are
1, Can I sponser my family
2, can i visit behrain and uae frequently.
3,what are the other facilities which i cannot avail.
4,and can i get a entry and reentry visa for other countries other than behrain and uae.
pls reply

Expatguru said...

Omar,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized and confidential reply by email.

khurassani said...

Greetings Expatguru

First of all Man u r doing a wonderful job by helping so many people voluntarily without any stipend this is just amazing in this world may Allah give you reward for this human cause.

Guru i m living in saudi from 1988 i was born in 1986 my Iqama is student as i m under my father's sponsorship

but now the time has come to change the profession so that i can call my wife from my country

the company where i m working r willing to give me iqama and profession according to my education plus the family status which is telecom engineer but binding myself with this company for at-least 2 years and even after that it will not give release only final exit is in my company's policy, my heart doesn't accept this because in the meanwhile if i get any better opportunity then i cannot switch to that opportunity because of this two years of slavery concept in which you cannot change your sponsorship and after two years the policy of the company.

so i wanna work as a free lancer, a friend of mine is likewise me an engineer and working for a company as a telecom engineer but he didn't give the transfer to his company he found a qafeel who gave him the profession of telecom technician in return my friend gives the kafeel yearly 4000 riyals inclusive of all the fees of iqama and stuff

i feel my friend did right i wanna do this too but there is only one hurdle and only one question in my mind regarding this tranfer from my father to a qafeel will i be able to call my wife free of cost on permanent visa when my profession is a telecom technician not a telecom engineer?????

is there any other advice from your side? this is a very big decision for me and my life and i m counting you too :)

Thank you very much.

Khurassani.

dr shueb said...

assalaam alaikum.i am working in ministry of health as dental surgeon for past 13 years.my family is with me but now i want to call my mother on permanent visa and sister and sister in law(brothers wife) on visit visa.my wife is also a doctor working with me on her own iqama with minitry of health and she too wants to call her sister and mother on visit visa .is it possible?

Expatguru said...

Dr. Shueb,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

Anonymous said...

hello sir , can a female dentist apply for visit visa for her husband ,son, her own mother if she has iqama but family status will be given after 3 months??
thanx
missmars
pakistan

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

rubiya9619 said...

dear guru,
i'm new in saudiarabia.i reached here on last month.now i'm here on MASON visa....
And i'm Working here as a COMPUTER PROGRAMMER(i.e,SQL SERVER ADMIN). ...i have a professional degree(B.TECH) issued by a well known UNIVERSITY in ANDHRA PRADESH,INDIA....then is it possible to bring my family on my visa profession..if not tell me what i have to do????

waiting 4 ur rplyyyy,,.....
THANK UUU

Expatguru said...

Rubiya9619,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

M. Umar said...

Dear Expat Guru,
i am working in KSA since last 5 years, my visa was azad at that time and i have taken transfer to an other sponser. my profession on iqama is building labour, can i bring my family after i change my profession.i am working as Buisness Development Manager, I am bechelor in Arts from well known University of Punjab Lahore pakistan, what kind of profession sutiable for me to allowed my family as per my degree.

please if you have any detail list of profession and requiremnets also send.
Thanks
pls reply

Expatguru said...

Umar,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

M. Athir Gillani said...

Hi guys,

I have been offered "General System Analyst" visa by my company. I am employed as Software Engineer. I have complained them that I should get "Computer Engineer" or "Computer Programmer" visa. But they say it is equivalent. What are your thoughts, should I accept this, what is the difference, is it better or not.

Please explain the facilities that I can get under the above mentioned visa types.

Thanks in advance.

Expatguru said...

Athir,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

Anonymous said...

Hi Expatguru
First we loved blogging with workinginsaudiarabi.blogspot.com since you are providing free comments. But now you are asking readers to pay 10$ which I think it's too much. No doubt you need to be paid for your efforts, but a reasonable consultancy fee would be welcomed by most of the readers. Otherwise the google page ranking of your blog will go down more and more. Think again, no hard feelings.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Thanks for your comments. I would like to explain a thing or two.

As you rightly pointed out, I started off this blog as a hobby, not as a profession. It is still my hobby. I have a full-time job which pays me a salary, so whatever I do here is only in my spare time. So my first responsibility is for my work, just like you or any other expat.


Having said this, over a period of time my Inbox started getting flooded with queries, most of them either asking me for a job in Saudi or spam. I am not an employment agency, just another expat like you. So, I decided to put a nominal fee to discourage spammers. However, I consider a fee of USD10, which is the equivalent of SR37 a nominal amount. Honestly, I dont care about the google page ranking of my blog, because I write in this blog for pure pleasure, not for popularity. If you genuinely cannot afford USD10, do let me know this in your query and I will gladly consider answering you free of cost, just like I have been doing for so many other people. Please do note that this money is for the time I spend on answering a query. Don't you pay when you meet a doctor for consultancy? You certainly do have an option of choosing your doctor. Once again, let me reiterate that USD10 is a reasonable amount and each day I do answer a lot of queries from people. I also answer a lot of queries free of cost, but this is on a case to case basis. I am not after money, thank God I have a full-time job which pays me well, but please appreciate that I have a right to charge a fee for my time.

Anonymous said...

I am holding Ms degree from sweden have professional experience about 3 years in Denmark. i came to KSA on open visa and type of visa is : AAmil Makinia, So can i change my profession if yes after how much time ? and how much it cost me? Can i bring my family member or wife ? if no what about inviting them on Visit Visa. thank looking for your brief and useful answer.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

Shafraz said...

hi,

currently my iqama profession is aluminium technician and i am working as a IT administrator. at the same time i have a diploma in network administrator with seal from foreign ministry and Saudi embassy in my home country.
Now which position i should change to bring my wife to KSA, Computer technician or Network Administrator?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

Anonymous said...

I came to know from my employer at KSA that they will give me "technician visa " right now and after reaching Saudi when I will apply for IQAMAM they will change my technician visa to engineering visa.They are telling the conversion from technician to engineering visa is just paper work, nothing serious. Is it so? please clarify. I have heard that the type written on the visa should be matched with the certificates of the applicant to get the family visa.
Kindly give me your opinion on this topic so that I can come out from the confusion on family visa.
Regards

Expatguru said...

It is next to impossible to do such a change. NEVER accept such a job offer.

Sarah said...

Hi expatguro,my name is sarah and currently working under a medical technician visa,my husband is resigning from his current work and under a computer programer visa. Is it possible he can transfer his visa to dependent visa under me?

Expatguru said...

Sarah,

It is possible but your husband cannot work as he will be your dependant.

Anonymous said...

Hi,

Greetings for the Day!!!

I would like to share the Query in my mind about my Husband offer in KSA for an ERP Consultant position.
he might get a "Non Professional viSA" which is valid only for 90 Days.

Firstly, can he get a permenant professional visa after this 90 Days?

Secondly what would be the case if the visa is not getting renewed after 90 days?

Thirdly, on the "Non Professional Visa" can he get his family to KSA?

Can we trust the employer who says that there are chances to convert in 90 dyas to permenant visa.

what kind of acknowledgements to be taken by the employee from the employer end before accepting and coming to Saudi...

Finaly, how many SAR are required to survive in a month after getting accomodation and transport.

Waiting to hear from you Sir!!

Thanks
Komala

Expatguru said...

Komala,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized and confidential reply by email.

jain.jacob.89@gmail.com said...

I am an Electrical Engineer but in my visa Iam a plumber. Is there any problem to change to change my proffession to Engineer in my iquama?

Expatguru said...

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

Anonymous said...

hello guru...obviously i do not have the $10 yet to pay you but i still hope you will reply to my very simple query. I was offered a stenographer technician for a visa, is there a possibility i can bring my husband with me as a dependent or even at least apply for visit visa for him?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Unfortunately, you cannot sponsor him. He can certainly come on a visit visa.

Anonymous said...

Expat plz answer this free.
What are the benefits of engg visa over operator visa.

Expatguru said...

The only thing available free in this world is unsolicited advice. I have no intention of doing charity work from those who can afford it.

Achmad Muklis said...

Dear Expatguru,

I got employment offer as Electrical Supervisor from one paper mill in Dammam , Saudi Arabia. They write down on job offer Marital Status after 1 year services, what is the meaning of it? And is it possible to get family visa if I was just graduated from Vocational High School?

Thank you for your advice and answer.
Best Regards,
Ahmed- Indonesia

Expatguru said...

Ahmed,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized reply by email.

Anonymous said...

I travelled to saudi on bussiness visa in 2010 for a contract job. I am a chemical engineer by profession.
Now i am going for work visa as engineer. will saudi embassy issue me engineer visa even if i went saudi 3 years back on bussiness visa with technician mentioned on it.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would get you a detailed, personalized and confidential reply by email.

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