Wednesday, May 21, 2008

NOC not required for Indians

It's now official. There's finally some good news for Indian expatriates working in Saudi Arabia who are planning to switch jobs. I had mentioned earlier the difficulties faced by expatriates planning to change jobs, due to the draconian No Objection Certificate requirement. This has now been done away with, but only for Indian expatriates, at the moment. For other nationalities, it is best to consult the Saudi Embassies in your own countries.
More than 2 years after it was made a law, Saudi embassies around the world are slowly starting to implement the same. The consulate in Mumbai, India, has now declared that if any Indian national, currently working in Saudi Arabia , wishes to change his job within the kingdom, he can re-enter the kingdom without the requirement of a No Objection Certificate from his current employer, provided he has left the kingdom on an Exit visa. In other words, if he has gone on Exit/Re-entry, it is still necessary to obtain an NOC from the current employer.
A major hurdle has thus been removed for Indian expatriates planning to switch jobs. Let us hope that it would be equally applied to all other countries too. The winds of change, it appears, is slowly blowing in favour of expatriates.
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Update on the above post (November, 2008):
The winds of change, it appears, has stopped! Within 6 months after relaxing the NOC rule, the Saudi Consulate in Mumbai has once again reintroduced the requirement of a No Objection Certificate. What is really annoying is that it was done without the slightest notice, leaving hundreds of expatriates high and dry. Many people had gone back to India in the hope of coming back to a better job and now find that their hopes have dashed. Let us hope that this rule is relaxed at the earliest!

155 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi
its wonderful piece of information
thanks dear
keep it up
may god bless u
regards

Anonymous said...

Subject: Good News: NO need for NOC
Courtesy: Arab News Dated: 26th August 2006 / Column: Law and You by Mohammed Jaber Nader


J. Please let us know, as per the New Labor Law (NLL), after going on final exit, when may an employee come back to Saudi Arabia for work in a new job with a different employer, in case one does not have NOC.
NLL has canceled all provisions and official circulars within the Old Labor Law for non-return periods of one or three years to new assignments. Now, a person does not need an NOC, and may return immediately for a new job, unless the employee has bound himself and undertook in writing not to return, for a certain period.

Isnt it an old news?

Expatguru said...

No dear, it isn't old news. The difference is that the law was made 2 years back, but was never implemented by the embassies abroad. See my earlier post on this

http://workinginsaudiarabia.blogspot.com/2007/06/switching-jobs-in-saudi-kalli-valli.html

Now, the consulate in Mumbai has officially implemented it. That's where the difference is.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

I really appreciate the effort you are putting here for the information correctness and affection towards Indians coming to KSA.

I can assure that if anybody visiting KSA goes through the complete details here would not struggle during his life here for anything he needs.

I am here in Al Khobar and looking to switch for another job. I really surprised / shocked (with smile) by seeing this info on NOC. Sir is it authentic info? Can I proceed in searching for better job? If you don't mind, how can I verify it?

Please forgive me if my questioning is wrong.

Thanks

Expatguru said...

Sir,

Thanks for visiting my blog and for your comments. Regarding the authenticity, all I can say is that before I write something on this blog, I double-check each and every single detail. The popularity of this blog is high because it is credible. As a policy, I never write anything which I am not sure of.

However, I have mentioned several times in the past and have no hesitation in saying this even now - blogging is only my hobby, not my profession. I am not even remotely connected to any official organization. I don't make any money out of this blog nor do I get paid by anyone for my writing. What I write here are based solely on my own experiences and you can never find these in any official document. So, it is up to you to take it or leave it. Hope you understand.

roby said...

Dear Sir, Really it is good news that NOC requirement is completed removed. Can You please confirm me one more subject, that when NOC requirment removed, they made strict rule that for Stamping visa the persons must have qualification which match the profession in the visa. Otherwise will not endorse. But earlier it was not not compulsory and anybodyc can come in any visa. For eg, if any company need secretary, it is not compulsory the profession of visa must be secretary. They can bring the employee in any visa like Labour, Electrician, AC Techncians like...Now it is not possible. Is it true?? Now i really fear. Because My profession is Secretary. Most of the companies dont have visa for same profession and because Secretary Job is reserverd for Saudis. So can you pleae advice me as I am working for low salary and I need to change job

Regards,

Expatguru said...

Roby,

Thanks for visiting my blog. Lifting of NOC restrictions is truly a boon for expatriates working in Saudi Arabia who are planning to change jobs. Regarding your visa profession, it is the problem of your new sponsor, not yours. He is the one who has to provide you with a suitable visa so try and locate an employer who would provide you with a proper visa. Since you have the skills, do not come on a labor or non-supervisory visa as it has all associated problems mentioned elsewhere in this blog. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

HI GOOD DAY
THANKS FOR THE INFO
KEEP IT UP, MAY GOD BLESS YOU EVERY STEPS IN YOUR LIFE
BEST REGARDS

SAM

Anonymous said...

Let me thanks you for providing vital informations.I would like to ask you one thing.The NOC not required law has implemented effective may this year.Could you plese let me know that anyone has utilised this opportunity so far.If you know anyone please give his contact details.I will appreciate your quick response in this regard.

keep that up

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

I have already mentioned earlier that whatever I write in this blog is authentic and has been verified. If I am not sure of something, it would never appear here. This blog is extremely popular because it is credible.

By the way, I would advise you to directly contact the Saudi Consulate in Mumbai and find out for yourself, rather than asking anyone (including me) whether this information is correct or wrong.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

This is first time i am visiting this blog. I feel very good about the information you are providing to the people in trouble. May God Bless you.

I have one issue. I bought the visa for my brother couple of years back. He came here, and started working, but when we went for Sponsor Ship Transfer, the agent of sponsor refuses to give the transfer. We are not in contact of orginal sponsor, which is a lady. Any ways, now i am sending my brother on exit re entry to pakistan. I have got a new visa for him as well. He is present Iqama going to expire in 3 months means after Ramdan.

My questions are:-

1- Is there any requirment for NOC if the Exit Re Entry has expired?
2- After How much time we can submit the passport to Embbasy for endorsment of new visa?
3- Since now, they are taking finger prints on airport while going in or out of kindgom, will it make any difference?
4- If finaly my brother come here on new visa, can his previous employer make any problem?

I would be highly oblidged if you answer all my questions.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Thanks for visiting my blog and for your comments. To answer your queries,

1- Is there any requirment for NOC if the Exit Re Entry has expired?

That depends on your nationality. If you are Indian and if you have gone on exit visa, you do not need an NOC any more. But if you have gone on exit/reentry visa, you have to obtain an NOC. In your case, I strongly urge your brother to resign and go on EXIT visa and not on exit/reentry. This way, he is legally 100% safe to return.

2- After How much time we can submit the passport to Embbasy for endorsment of new visa?

There is no time limit. It can be even on the day he lands in your home country.

3- Since now, they are taking finger prints on airport while going in or out of kindgom, will it make any difference?

Not unless your brother is involved in any criminal activity.

4- If finaly my brother come here on new visa, can his previous employer make any problem?

Not at all, if he goes on EXIT. If he goes on exit/reentry, it is a totally different story.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

Thanks for your detail reply.

Can you please let me know, the procedure for exit. Let me give you the details picture.

My brother is not working with the same employer. His visa is from Yanbu and he is working in Riyadh. The time, we get his Iqama renewed, this agent get signatures on pay slips. I have tought on going into legal procedure for exit, but this guy is really giving us tough time, and i am afraid, if we ask him for exit, he may get us into some legal touble.

Please guide me, how i can easily get exit for my brother.

For your information, he is agent and his employer is a lady, whom we dont know.

Shall i file a case in labor court or what?

We are from Pakistan

Expecting your reply.

Thanks
Syed

Expatguru said...

Syed,

The advantage you have is that your brother's iqama is expiring in 3 months. Do not renew it. Create an emergency and tell the agent that your brother has to leave at any cost on exit. He must have no clue about your brother's intentions to come back. Do not try the legal route now, it may only complicate things. Going to the labor court should always be your last resort - you should do this only if the agent refuses to cooperate in getting an exit visa.

Syed, as per Saudi labor law, NOC is no longer required, but I do not know whether it has been implemented in Pakistan. In India too, it was implemented only from the 1st of May, 2008 even though the law was made in 2006.

Try to find out from the Saudi Embassy in your country whether it has been implemented or not. It has been implemented in India, but I cannot confirm for other countries as I am not sure of the same.

The important thing is that your brother must go on Exit, not on Exit/Reentry.

Alan said...

Hi Expat Guru

I have a friend who is from Pakistan. He was working for an employer in Saudi from 2006 till November 2007 when he left the country and moved to a new job in Dubai.

He's just been offered an excellent position back in Saudi with a different company and would love to accept only he's concerned about an NOC etc.

Can you advise us on whether he would be able to accept the job or will he have porblems because he didnt look for an NOC before from his old company etc or because he's been out of the country for 7 months now will an NOC still be necessary??

Thanks for all your help!

Alan

Expatguru said...

Alan,

Officially, a law was passed in 2006 declaring that NOC was no longer required. Unfortunately, it was never implemented. It was only as recent as 1st May, 2008, that this law was implemented for Indian citizens. I can say this for sure, because I have seen the written document myself. However, I am unable to confirm the same for other countries, including Pakistan, whether the law has been implemented or not. It is best that your friend contacts the Saudi Embassy in Pakistan and finds out himself.

I would also like to add a word of caution. If your friend had left on exit/reentry, he would not be able to come back until a year from the date of his departure. If he had left on exit visa AND if the NOC rule has been implemented in his country, then he could take up the offer. Hope this helps.

vijay said...

Dear Guru,

This is Vijay once again with a new query. How better the opportunities for women as teaching professionals who have done masters in bio-chemistry. Is it safer for the women to work as teachers in schools here (culture wise,security wise)?

Please advise,

Thanks in advance,

Best regards,
vijay.

Expatguru said...

Vijay,

There is an acute shortage of good teachers in the kingdom. However, the pay is not that attractive. Regarding safety for women, it all depends on individual perception, so one cannot generalize anything.

FEROZ said...

Very happy to hear the news of NOC not required

I heard that for engineers and doctors the family visa can be stamped at the same time, in india itself, not like before to come here first alone and then sent the visa, is this true....

pls. let me know the formalities for family visa if coming on a new visa for professionals.

thanks

Expatguru said...

Feroze,

There was a talk about this in the newspapers, but to my knowledge it has not been implemented yet.

Please read elsewhere in my blog (choose from the dropdown menu of the calendar on the right hand side) for previous topics where I have covered your query.

Shakkeer said...

Sir,

I am working in Saudi Arabia for last 6 years and last 5 years i am with the same employer. Recently they renewed my Iqama. Now, for a better career opportunity I resigned from the job. I gave 30 days notice which will expire on August 13 2008. I asked for final exit in Resignation letter. But I am afraid that they will give me exit & re entry to trap me to not come by another visa. My Iqama will expire only on June 2009. Is there any option to insist employer to terminate contract by Exit me?. If they gave me Exit & Re entry, what legal action I can take? Also, is it my right to get Exit and not Exit Re entry if I resign and gave legal notice to employer to terminate contract?

Thanks for your support

Expatguru said...

When you resign from your company, it is your legal right to go on exit visa. Try not to rub your sponsor on the wrong side, so that your exit is smooth. Good luck on your new job!

Ghouse Basha said...

Dear sir
thanks for your blog,I came to know regarding NOC-Not required for Indians .thanks for this news
Iam an engineer working in reputed Organization from the past 14 yrs -but not with reasonable salary. after this NOC -not required - I start to search for better opportunity. by the gods grace I got two offers -with good salaries .
My existing contract was finished by 01-05-08, and there is some negotiations going on for Increment but still i didn’t sign the new contract.
but in my previous contract written like this .
A)the employee for three years after the termination of this employment for what ever reasons and regardless of the employment period shall not directly or indirectly own manage, operate control, be employed by ,participate in or be connected in any manner with company, partner ship business or organization, which directly operate works or does business in Saudi Arabia of similar nature.
B)the employee shall not for two years after the termination of his employment employee or solicit for employment either directly or in directly any person who has been employed by the company in the two years prior to termination of the employees termination of employment .
sir
As u know that being an engineer i got offer in the same field. the new employer is having the visa in NEW-DELHI.BUT WHEN I see my previous contract i afraid , can you pls guide me what to do .i will be more thank full to you in this .

I know some of our Arabic speaking colleagues they joined in some other similar Organizations





With Regards
Aasif

Expatguru said...

Hello Aasif,

Thanks for visiting my blog. There is absolutely no cause for worry, because the NOC rule has been implemented by the Saudi Government and you are legally protected. There is absolutely nothing your current employer can do, even after your return. Go ahead and accept the offer. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,
I am working in Saudi Arabia for last 8years and last 8 years i am with the same employer. Now, i got a better career offer from another company in KSA and I submitted my resignation from the job. I gave 30 days notice which will expire on August 19 2008. I asked for final exit in Resignation letter. But my company rejected my resignation and forcing me to work with them. What can i do in this situation to entitle my final exit . One advantage is that my passport and iqama is with me. Can i process my final exit thru any of agent without aknowledging company.If so , is there any legal problem (from ex company)if i come back to kindom with a new visa.

Expatguru said...

Legally your company has no right to hold you. Try telling them gently that you have to definitely go. If this doesnt work, tell them that you will proceed to the Labor Court.

Unfortunately, you cannot go on exit without your employer's consent, but at the same time if you submit your resignation and have no dues with your company, your employer cannot refuse to send you on exit.

Eldho said...

Hello Expat Guru,
Thanks for this very informative blog. I am seeking your help to clear my doubts. I will explain the situation.
I have got a good opportunity and planning to go exit and come back to a new firm. I have already submitted resignation letter to my company and waiting for their action.
now, I have a car and telephone line under my name. As I am planning to come back, i am not interested to sale the car. is there any problem to keep these under my name when I go exit?

is it necessary to return my license also to my company when i return the Iqama as I am the one who paid for it?

If I went exit is there any time limit to submit my passport to endorse the new visa?

I heard they will take finger prints when I go exit. is this will affect my return?

please guide me in these regards.

thanks, Eldho.

Expatguru said...

Eldho,

Thanks for visiting my blog and for your comments.

You MUST surrender your phone and transfer the car to someone else's name. That is, you must sell the car. Alternatively, you may transfer the ownership to any trusted friend of yours and once again do a re-transfer to your name when you come back. Note, however, that your friend will be the owner of your car during this period and is responsible for whatever happens to the car.

You need not return your driving license. You may submit your passport anytime after you land in your home country. And finally, finger prints are taken only for tracking criminals or if you have anything due with your current employer. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Hi Expat Guru,
I am working with a bank as a professional. I have got a better offer with another bank.In this connection I spoke to one of the agent in Mumbai, who has informed me that still, Saudi Embassy Mumbai is insisting on NOC from previous employer. It seems the new regulation has not yet reached there. You will appreciate my anxiety. Before I resign, I want to be doubly sure that I will be able to come back without any hassle. I most humbly seek your valuable guidance.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Your agent is probably trying to make some money out of your anxiety. Also, you have only "spoken" to him, and did not get anything in writing from him (he cannot give this in writing because he knows very well that this is not true). Tell him firmly that the new law has been implemented by the Saudi Embassy in India with effect from 1st May, 2008. If you are still in anxiety, call the Saudi Embassy rather than any agent and get this confirmed yourself - this will save you time and money!

Anonymous said...

Administrative departments across Saudi Arabia are laden with the most insane and cruel staff one can find. I feel sorry for all of the expatriates that are constantly suffering, at times waiting for only a single signature for their income, wife or freedom. Although I am glad to see progress, I have seen too much torture for far too long and feel any progress today is far too little and far too late.

Saudi Arabia is not a good place to work.

Anonymous said...

I am really grateful of your great deed.you are doing a very good service to the society. Allah Alimighty will reward you for that. You are giving genuine information for the needy at right time.It is really great help and reflecting a islmic value of yours. please keep it up and please continue for this support. God bless you

Shakkeer said...

Hi ExapatGuru,

Again I backed to you for your advise. This time, I resign from my company here and after some discussion they agreed me to send by exit. But I heared that, if we go by exit, they will give our passport from the Airport only or at last moment only. So How I know that they are sending me by Exit Visa and not Exit-ReEntry Visa.Is there any way to find that before we get passport. I mean from Interior ministry website or something?. Also, I have already got a Visa From Saudi Arabia. I would like to back with that Visa. How long is the validity of the visa after issuing it. I know after stamping we have to be here with in 3 months. But after issuing how many months we can keep Visa with us without stamping. As I need to finsih something in India, I need some time there. Thanks for you support

Expatguru said...

Shakeer,

This is quite normal. If you go on exit, usually the passport is given in the last minute only, so don't worry about it.

The new visa is usually valid for 3 months from the date of your departure. Its validity is usually for 6 months.

Zeno said...

Hi,
nice to hear that... do you know if this law is valid for all the GCC countries or its only for Saudi??

Expatguru said...

Zeno,

I am not aware of the regulations of other countries and hence cannot comment on the same.

Anonymous said...

Hi,

I left my job in May, 2008 from Saudi. My iqama expires on 11 Ramazan, 1429 (11 Sep, 2008).
Now i have a job offer and need to join, i am Pakistani national, and new comapny is Taking me on Business visa first and then send me back in december to staamp work visa.
I do not have NoC from thw previous employer. What i should do in this case.
Thanks & Br,
Syed

Expatguru said...

Syed,

Remember that you cannot bring your family on business visa. Also, there is no guarantee that it will be converted into a work visa. Think twice before accepting any offer.

Anonymous said...

Pray for your well being, Your guidance is confidence building enduring many livelyhood. God Bless.
Pls. I seek your advise.

After 16yrs I had resigned in Mar 08, Final exit is delayed as company seeks my replacement,
secondly for settlement of ESB, and also sure NOC will not be issued.
my co urges to go on re-entry visa.
in case I travel on re-entry visa my working permit lapse on Feb09. can I take embassy help to obtain my ESB. end of Service Benifits
while staying in India
Please advise.

Expatguru said...

I hope you understand that you do not need an NOC any more if you are an Indian national (provided you go on exit not on exit/re-entry). Try negotiating with your employer for a smooth settlement. Drop hints that you will be forced to approach the labor court, but do not want to go to that level. If he still doesn't budge, then you have no other choice but to do so. I am not sure whether the embassy would help you once you leave the kingdom, better try to settle everything before your departure.

arshu said...

Hi expatguru,
Thanks for the wonderful piece of information.
I need one advice from you.
I understood that now NOC is not required for Indians. I am planning to go on exit and come back in another company because i got good salary package. I came to know that my company normally, as a standard, gets an undertaking signed by all exit cases, that we will not return for certain period or some thing (of course which is in arabic and we cannot read or understand). Anyone who goes on exit sign this paper blindly, right from laborer to manager. So, will i face any problem if i come back? i also came to know that the signed paper just lies in company files and is never given out to any government dept. Please advice.
Thank u so much for ur patience
Regards
Arshad

Expatguru said...

Arshad,

It appears that this procedure is being followed by your company for quite a long time, much before the new NOC-not-required-for-Indians rule was implemented. Since you have yourself said that this piece of paper is never produced out of the files, I see no reason why you should worry. However, as a matter of caution, I would advise you not to strain your relationship with your current employer and leave the company smoothly. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Hi Expatguru

Brilliant stuff in here! Never bothered to search the web for Saudi visa tips. Today I was googling to check out visit visa rules & am pleasantly surprised to see the amount of information on this site.

I am not sure if you can do without the NOC at the embassy in Delhi though. I went on final exit in July. My passport got rejected saying that there was no final exit; I guess they were blind. So the agent put a sticker on the page with the final exit. Got rejected once more - this time they wanted the NOC. By God's grace, my previous employers gave the NOC immediately and I had colleagues following it up for me. Resubmitted it within a week & got the visa in another week.

The agent said that NOC is not requested from Mumbai, but the chaps at Delhi are quiet strict.

Cheers

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Thanks for your comments.

The reason why the embassy in Delhi was strict is that there was no exit stamp. As mentioned here, as long as there is an exit stamp on your passport, there is no need for an NOC for Indian nationals.

arshu said...

hi expatguru,
this is arshad again.
thanx for ur advice on my previous query. i need another clarification just in case.
Is NOC required to go to another gulf country (for example Oman) when there is exit-reentry visa on passport from saudi arabia?

Expatguru said...

Arshu,

No, every country has its own regulations. However, a few individual companies request for an NOC from their previous GCC country, but this is not a requirement by the Government, only by individual companies and this too has no legal basis. It is more a psychological tactic to ensure that you have not run away from your previous employer.

Jay said...

Hi Expact Guru.Thanks for your wonderful piece of information.I am an indian and i did read about the non requirement of NOC for exit as per NLL.I applied for final exit by Dec 2008.But my company refused to send me on exit and decided stamp exit/re-entry for with validity of 3 months.My Iqama will expire by March 2009.Can i come back to Saudi on a new visa without NOC after my Iqama expires?

Expatguru said...

Jay,

Thanks for your comments. Make sure that you give in writing to your company right now that you do not want to continue being with them once the iqama expires. Take an acknowledgement of this letter for your safety. By all means you can return to the kingdom once your visa automatically expires in March. Good luck!

Inconel said...

Sir,

I left KSA with 6 month re-entry period on 15 April 2008.Now 6 months gone.At present I have a very good job offer from Qatar.Can I travel to Qatar with my passport?My consultant told me that I have to make sure that the visa has been canceled or not.Six month re-entry period already gone and I think technically the visa is canceled.Please help me by providing valuable information.

Expatguru said...

Inconel,

All this fuss about NOC and exit reentry pertaining to Saudi Arabia has no meaning for Qatari immigration. Only a few private companies in Qatar bother about this unnecessarily. As far as other GCC countries are concerned, there should be no legal case against you in their own countries. So, it hardly matters whether your exit/reentry in Saudi is valid or not - atleast it doesn't matter for Qatari immigration, but as I said, maybe a few companies are insisting on it (for no reason).

Prasad said...

Hi
I was working in Saudi & I came on exit re-entry visa on 8 Aug,2008. I lost my passport in India and my visa already got expired on 8 Sep,2008. I applied for a duplicate one and I got it, can I go to Saudi for another job without NOC as my new job is confirmed.
Kindly help on this issue.

Expatguru said...

No Prasad. You did not go out of the kingdom on an exit visa. Hence you will definitely need an NOC from your previous employer. If you have a good relationship with your previous employer, try to talk to him and try to get an NOC. For this, first get your iqama cancelled through him. It is quite a long process, since you are not in the kingdom. The easier way out is to wait for a year from the date of expiry of your iqama and then go back to the kingdom for a job.

Anonymous said...

Hi,

I resigned from my company and asked for the exit but company has given me exit re entry and to my wife and 2 child exit re entry.My Iqama will expire in sep 2009.
After reaching my home country pakistan I applied for the fresh passport which does not have previous records of saudi Visa.The new employer has office in anopther city.I have got bettre offer and want to go back to saudi arabia on fresh passport.
Please advise on the following
1)My old Iqama is still valid.Is there will be problem in getting new Iqama from the new employer.
2)They have given EXIT to my wife and 2 children passports.I think this will not affect new visa stamping when they will apply for visa stamping because they came on exit.
Please advise your view on this matter.
Shall I come or not to saudi arabia.My previous employer will not give me the NOC.
Your promt reply will be highly appreciated

Thanks and regards
khan

Expatguru said...

Khan,

What can I say? Of course, legally what you are doing is not correct. If you have not given your fingerprints earlier, nobody will know if you return. However, remember that there is always a risk of being caught and immediately being deported, so I leave the decision totally to you. Your family's visa status will not matter.

Joseph Thanaraj said...

Hi Expatguru,
I am working as Electrical Technician in SWCC. My wife have Visa, Last month Girl baby born for us in India. Is there any procedure to get visa in Saudi Embassy at India. One of my friend told me that Saudi Airport will give visa for baby when entering into Kingdom. Feb 2009 i planned to bring them here.
Thanks
Joseph Thanaraj

Expatguru said...

Joseph,

Congratulations on becoming a father! I will strongly advise you to take a separate passport for your baby in India itself before your wife comes to the kingdom. The visa for the infant has to be taken within 3 months after your wife and child arrive in the kingdom.

Inconel said...

Sir,

I have seen many oil&gas construction giants bringing manpower on business visa and extending it as per their requirement for short term missions.Is there any problem to work in KSA with business visa in short term missions?Please give valuable information to clear my doubt.

rahman said...

Sir,

I am rahman from india. I am an Engineer. I like to work in saudiarabia. so i told my Brother in law he said that he will arrange azzad visa it cost around 14000 riyals and the profession is labour.
IS it gud for me to go on that profession and hunt for jobs after doing medical and iqama over there. Is the visa transferable. If i got a gud opportunity in a gud company then who will change my profession.
UR reply is most apppreciated.
Thanks for your help

Joseph Thanaraj said...

Dear Guru,
Thanks for your answer. Also i want to know that at airport how many months baby allowed to enter Kingdom without visa.

Anonymous said...

Sir

what is the procedure to get a NOC if required, and should it be endorsed by government agencies if any..

Ur reply is most appreciated and thanks for the kind help

Expatguru said...

Rahman,

If you are an engineer, you should actually be ashamed to be so desparate to somehow get inside Saudi Arabia, even if it is on a labor visa. Remember that Saudi Arabia is not a land of milk and honey. Life IS tough here. There are a lot of vacancies here for engineers on engineer visa and you should make sincere attempts to get such a job on an engineer visa itself. If you are going to 'buy' a free visa, rest assured that you will just land up in some bad company. If your sponsor is not ready to give you an engineer visa, it really is not worth it. Good luck!

Expatguru said...

Joseph,

An infant upto 1 year is allowed to travel along with the mother into the kingdom without a visa. Note, however, that the baby must have its own passport. The visa should be made within 3 months upon arrival.

Expatguru said...

Inconel,

I would like to clarify that when I say 'visit visa', I mean family visit visa. That is, if you bring someone on a family visit visa, it is strictly prohibited for him to work. If it is a visitor specifically being brought in on a business visa, it is usually a short-term one. The visitor is supposed to be doing exactly what his visa says, i.e., business. In other words, if he is going to get paid for "work" done here, it is certainly illegal. This should be only on a work visa. However, it is quite common, though illegal, for companies to hire people on short-term basis on a business visa. There are risks involved in this though, as also a lot of inconvenience. The visitor does not have an iqama, and hence cannot even take a driving license or open a bank account. Hope the above is clear.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Please read the relevant post on the Archives in this blog for details on NOC.

Anonymous said...

Pray for your well being, Your guidance is confidence building God Bless.

I heard NOC is compulsary once again. Your comments..

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Thanks for your wishes. Glad to have been of help. Do not believe what you "hear". I have with me official written documentary proof that NOC is not required for Indians.

Eldho said...

hai expatguru,
i am eldho here. on July 22, 2008 10:01 AM i had posted a comment and you replied. thanks for your advice again.
now i am in india, came on Exit visa. i submitted my passport to the agency to stamp new visa before one month. today morning they informed me the rule has changed, and NOC is again compulsory. please advice.

thanks, Eldho.

Expatguru said...

Eldho,

Just a couple of minutes before, I got an email forwarded by a friend. It quotes a well-known Indian agency, G.Gheewala, that the old NOC-required rule for Indians has been re-implemented by the Saudi consulate in Mumbai. I am verifying the truth in this email and will write on this as soon as I get reliable information.

Sheik said...

Hi Expatguru & people,

I came to Saudi Arabia on a Mason (Civil) visa. My Sponsor let me to search for a job and he was ready to give release. I got a good offer and I have to exit out of the kingdom and come back(Transfer not possible).I am right now in Saudi Arabia and I am done with my exit and I am going to leave the Kingdom on next week. I am going to come on a new visa probably next month. I heard from my Sponsor (Kafil) that he cannot give the NOC as doesnt have CR Number. What I have to do in this case and is it necessary for me also to provide NOC when I am returning back...
Please guide me...

Thanks and Regards,
Sheik...

Expatguru said...

Sheik,

Anything is possible with wasta. What if your sponsor does not have a CR number? If he has the right kind of wasta, he should be able to get an NOC for you. Make sure you take it before you leave. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

As salam ... I am in saudi arabia, i heard a bad new rules of NOC. My company never issue NOC to its employee...never... what should i do now i got job in a very big company can i go to labour court to get NOC? can labour coart help me of this? \if i did this can my NO OBJECTION CERTIFICATE OR THEY PUT BAD REMARK ON ME......... pls tell me any way to come out of this riddle

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Unfortunately, you cannot go to any court. First of all you do not have any rights, remember this. Even if you do have, it is impossible to fight the system. The best way is to contact your new employer and tell him the situation. Otherwise, you can always go to any other country for employment.

employer said...

i just need clarifrication- i was passing a hotel and a TV reporter speaking in malayalam said that this NOC issue has been revoked recently and since I don't understand malayalam, the translator in english, told me that this is what had been said. Please confirm.

Expatguru said...

Employer,

Read this link

http://workinginsaudiarabia.blogspot.com/2008/11/noc-required-again-for-indians.html

Anonymous said...

Expat Guru
Actually i finished my contract of two years as signed while entering K.S.A in the month of August 2008 but still i am working with same company and recently one of my friend who is working in another company suggested me to join his company.His boss is ready to provide me visa same catgory(Ag.Engr).But the issue is that my company is not ready to give me N.O.C so what should i do shall i continue with my same company on same salary or shall i go on exit and wait in India for one year and come back.

Life here is really not bed of roses.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

I think rather than making your life miserable for yourself, you better call it quits. The world is full of opportunities.

abdul said...

Hai sir,
this is abdul gaffar from india .i returned back from ksa on 2nd feb ,2008. iwant to leave my job which i worked previously in ksa. i dont have noc from my sponser.Is there any problem in the air port of ksa ,when i go with another new visa?
plz reply as early as possible
thank you sir

Expatguru said...

Abdul Gaffar,

If you have returned on an exit visa, you can come back on a fresh visa without an NOC. If you left on an exit/reentry visa, you have to wait for 1 year from the date of departure.

Anonymous said...

Hi Expatguru,

Myself dhanya, my husband is working in saudi arabia, for last 2 yrs and i hav joined him some 7 mnths back on family visa, recently he has got a new offer, nd he is lookin foward for tht offer,and his present company is not ready to provide him with Noc. nd can i join him back if he goes for the new company offer.

pls your suggestion is awaited..

Expatguru said...

Dhanya,

Your husband can return for work if he goes on exit visa (not exit/reentry) after resigning from the present company. Whether you can join him depends on the nature of visa the new company is offering. So, first ask your husband to make sure that they are giving a supervisory category visa (not labor, painter, carpenter, etc).

Ali said...

Hello Expatguru,

I came to Saudi Arabia as an Lecturer in an university one month ago. Now I got an good offer from another university which is also under Ministry of Higher education. Actually my contract is of 2 years. But if i resign the present university within 2 months and I go on exit without NOC, will there be any problem to issue a new visa in the embassy in New delhi or consulate in Mumbai?? I heard that the embassy in New delhi is tough rather than Mumbai.

Expatguru said...

Ali,

First ensure that the offer from the other university is firm. Make sure that the other university knows that you are already in the kingdom working under the Ministry. The important thing is whether your iqama process has already started. If not, you are safe. Otherwise, it is a big procedure. I would strongly advise you to take your current employer into confidence.

Anonymous said...

Hi ExpatGuru,

Thanks for your spontaneous reply... YOu relieved me.. Previous company leaves on exit visa only, actually my husband is getting engineer visa and family status frm his new company.. I just want to Knw how soon can i join him back to saudi. Your reply is really awaited...
Dhanya.

Expatguru said...

Dhanya,

You can join your husband only after he gets his residence permit (iqama). This would normally take 3 months from the date of his arrival. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Hello Expatguru,

I am working in an university as Lecturer under Ministry of Higher Education since 5 months, whose contract is of 2 years. Another University, also under MInistry of Higher Education has sent me a visa to Mumbai Consulate. I have decided to resign the present job and go on exit and come back on a new visa. I want to ask, whether the consulate in Mumbai creates any problem becoz i have left the job within 5 months of 2 years contract, also i dont have NOC.

Please guide me whether is it advisable to go on exit and come with a new visa, or else i stay here with the present job.

If the present university issues me NOC, will the problem be solved.

I am waiting for your reply, please advise me.

Expatguru said...

Make sure you go on exit and not exit/reentry. Then you can return for employment on the fresh visa.

Amit said...

NOC is not required by Saudi consulate in Mumbai if you have come back on final exit. I have got my new visa processed without NOC, this is confirmed

Amit

Anonymous said...

Dear EG,

Amazing you have this site running all along and we have been blind about it. I guess you are getting a lot of prayers since you are helping a lot of people in difficulty.

I unfortunately am leaving the Kingdom on exit visa without any intentions to return on work visa in the next three years insha'Allah.

However, my "rogue" company has asked me to provide a undertaking which prevents me from returning to the Kingdom within next three years either on work or visit visa with the intention of marketing competitive products in the same field as my company. The undertaking states that I should acknowledge the right of the company to deport me immediately at my own expense should I visit.

Since I have been provided a job in my home country based on my knowledge of the ME markets and Saudi Arabia in particular, I will be required to either sell ancilliary equipment directly or indirectly competitive to this company. Such an undertaking will hamper my current postion within the new company.

I have been informed unofficially by higherups in my company that this document is being raised by "rogue" companies to avoid educated and experienced engineers from India to either resign or prevent them from coming back due to lifting the NOC.

Please advise whether I am legally bound to sign this undertaking.
Your guidance and assurance will ensure a peaceful stay till my exit.

Look forward to your reply.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

All is fair in war and work. For years, the NOC rule was misused by certain sponsors to enslave their employees. No more, atleast for Indian citizens. If you are going on exit visa, you can return by the next flight for work if you have a visa from some other company. End of story.

Don't ever sign any document which you are legally not bound to. No employer can be compelled to given an NOC. In case of Indians, you don't need an NOC anyway. Just say "Kalli Valli" and get the hell out of this company. All the best for your future!

Anonymous said...

Iam working in a company since June 2006,I have resigned and i want to go on exit i have yearly vacation for 30 days paid leave.

The company has informed me that they will release but i have to bear the cost of air fare.

My last vacation was in March 2008. So please confirm me is it right on their part to ask me to bear the air fare.

Thank You

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Unless you have agreed to bear the cost of the fare in writing, it is the responsibility of the sponsor to pay for your return ticket.

arshu said...

Hi EG,
I am working in a company since 1996. In Sept 2008 i wanted to go on exit but the company gave me exit re-entry visa and cleared all my dues with a new offer in case i decide to come back.
I did come back after 3 months and they made me sign a new contract as per the offer.
I want to know how my ESB will be calculated in future. I mean will it be starting from '96 till date minus the sum i have already rec'd or will it be a fresh from the date i came back and signed the new contract.
please advice
regards,

Expatguru said...

Since you signed a new contract, it would be with effect from that date. If you did not receive your ESB of your earlier contract, you should ask for this separately.

Anonymous said...

Dear Expatguru,

I would name myself as RJ here. I would like to present my case to you regarding switching job from the current employer to a prospected emoployer who is ready to provide me a new work visa if I resign from my current job and leave back for India on exit visa. But the prospected employer has also stated (not mandatory though) that I may want to convince my current employer to provide me an NOC before resigning from my job.

I am actually a chemical engineer by qualification and am working for a multinational company in our kind of business here in Saudi. Two points I would like to share with you are (1) My current employer is not a resigtered firm in Saudi and they are operating though a agent relationship with a local saudi company, as you can term them as business sponsors. Hence my visa and iqama are both on the name of the local saudi company who are business agents for the multinational whom I provide my services. (2) Although being a chemical engineer, but I was brought here on an Instrumentation engineers visa.

Having shared the above two key points, currently I am in the process of finanlizing a job offer with another multionational company who are in the same business in which the current company I work for is. But myself being on work visa and Iqama of the local saudi agent company, do you think my current company or the local saudi company can claim that I am working for a direct competition and that may cause me legal consequences if I do not obtain an NOC from the current employer (who in one sense has to be the local saudi sponsor company who may have to provide the NOC)?

I have heard various news regarding requirement of NOC for processing the new visa from India after having returned on a exit visa from the previous employment. But I do not want to take any chance in case I will be in problems due to this NOC issue.

I even heard around that if you happen to successfully process the new visa from india, then the immigration authorities are good enough to create problems for you upon arrival on new visa, if you dont hold a NOC from the previous employer. is this true?

Also please note that I was not asked to provide my finger prints or eyes print during my first arrival last year when I came in march-08.

Please suggest me the right way to handle the situation.

Should I easily resign from my current job and will I be able to obtain a new visa from saudi embassy in india?

After having the new visa stamped, will it be free of risk to travel and get through the immigration authorities here in saudi upon arrival?

In case my current employer later point of time discovers that I have joined a direct competitor company, can they trap me legally?

Last but not the least, having got done all the paper attestations last year during the first visa processing in India, do I need to again get all those attestation done for processing the new visa. These are namely (re-verification from my univeristy, attestation from home ministry, attestation from HRD and attestation from saudi embassy in delhi)

Also if you can, please provide a valid format of the NOC content if I amy have to obtain it in worst case from my present employer. I do not wish to take a risk with my career in this global turmoil situation.

Your valuable feedback with assured confidence will be highly apprecaited.

Regards,
RJ

Expatguru said...

RJ,

There is just a one-line reply to your long query: NOC is NOT required by Indian citizens provided they go out of the kingdom on exit. Much has been written in this blog about this and I do not want to repeat it anymore. Despite this if you have a doubt, I leave it to your own judgement whether to return or not. You need not do re-attestation of your certificates more than once.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

IS it possible that the rule of NOC may change suddenly because i spoke to an agent in mumbai he told me that there is no written cirlular abt the NOC rule. So is there any possibility that the rule may change????

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Absolutely right. There is no written circular. It all depends on the mood of the immigration officials in the Saudi Embassy. The NOC rule was changed 3 times in 2008 - no official circular, no link, no declaration. So, it all depends on your luck. Remember, the only thing certain in Saudi Arabia is uncertainty!

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,
Iam working in a company since 3 years i have resigned and gave a notice of one month to the company my resignation was accepted and now after one month notice is completed my management is asking me to leave on exit/re-entry and are asking me not to come back,they say they will not give me EXIT or else they will not allow me to leave. and they r asking me to pay for my return ticket and they r also not giving NOC what can i do please suggest.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

No company can refuse to give you an exit visa. You may probably have to pay your return ticket. Make this offer to your employer as a bargaining chip. Never accept an exit/reentry as you will not be able to return for employment without an NOC. If you are an Indian citizen, you do not need an NOC and can return immediately, provided you left on exit. If you left on exit/reentry and you are an Indian, you can return only after 1 year. If you are of any other nationality, you can return for employment only after 2 years without an NOC.

Anonymous said...

thnak you for a prompt reply...yes i agreed that i will pay my return ticket but still they r asking me to leave on exit/re-entry and they say that they will send my clearance money to my account in india after i leave.....i have given them enough time by resigning about a month ago and my iqama is also due for reneval in 10 days......if as a final option i go to labor court how much time it will take and do i have a strong case......

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

You have a very strong case. First tell them verbally that if they do not give you an exit visa, you will go to labor court and will also involve your embassy. Usually such cases are solved within 3 to 4months. Most important is not to lose your will power. Never ever agree for your amount to be settled after you leave - it will not reach you for sure. Take your embassy's help. If still there is no response from your employer, just file a complaint with the labor court.

Read these two links

http://workinginsaudiarabia.blogspot.com/2008/10/expatriate-grievance-cell.html

http://workinginsaudiarabia.blogspot.com/2008/12/labor-offices-in-saudi-arabia.html

Ask your embassy for help. They will provide you with an Arabic speaking lawyer.

Anonymous said...

Thank You Sir,
What will happen if my case say takes about 2 months to get solved will i be paid till the last day of my stay here????

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Yes, you will be paid. Make sure you do not break down at any point of time. Keep your will power strong. Talk to your embassy immediately.

Anonymous said...

sir can u give the contact numbers of embassy????

Expatguru said...

You did not mention your nationality. If you are an Indian, you can call the Indian Embassy in Riyadh in any of these numbers:

01-4881982, 01-4810742,01-4884144, 01-4884691 or 01-4884691.

Abdul Qayoom said...

Dear Sir,

Is there any update abt the NOC rule for indians......plzzz let me know as i have come back to india on exit and submitted my passport for processing of new visa the agent is asking for noc he is saying if noc is not there its not sure visa may b stamped or not .......pls update me at the earliest....thank u

Expatguru said...

Abdul Qayoom,

Your agent is trying to fool you to try to make money out of your ignorance. NOC is NOT required for Indian citizens as of today (21st March, 2009). If there is an update, I would have certainly mentioned it here. Contact Jerry Varghese or Gheewala in Mumbai if you still have a doubt.

Anonymous said...

My case is very difficult. Ihave come saudi on March-1oth-2009 and working in Al-Jubail with employer XX. My emloyer purchased VISA from different sponsor YY from Riyadh. My employer XX has sent my passport for making IQAMA to my sponsor YY in Riyadh. Once IQAMA is made my sponsrship will be transferred to my employer-XX.

I am worried what is the procedure of sponsorship transfer and how much time it takes.

GURU please explain me.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Read my post on this

http://workinginsaudiarabia.blogspot.com/2009/03/expat-rights-upon-transfer-of.html

Wasim said...

Hello Brother,

Its really owsome blog that you are maintaining, many people are educated and getting help from this blog. U will get a good returns Insha Allah for this.

Brother, I also did a mistake while leaving KSA. Time made me do so. I left KSA on exit/re-entry and now doing job in bahrain. I am having a good offer from one of the company in KSA (riyadh) but am worried if I will be able to come back on KSA soil or not.

My Iqama was renewed just few days b4 i left and that too for 2 years :-((

In this case what are the options for me to come back.

Thanks for reading and also for your help.

Regards,
Mohammed.

Expatguru said...

Mohammed,

It depends on your nationality. If you are an Indian, you need to wait atleast 1 year from the date of your iqama expiry to return without an NOC.

Anonymous said...

dear friend thanks for all these information on this site u wont belive tht we all friends were so worried about our legal position while working here. this web site have clear most of our doubts. and i am very glade tht u have given proper guidence to all brothers .

actully we were looking for information and we got ur site. thats great we got atmost all our information .
we have a prob although we r working here in jeddah as teachers. although our employer is a nice religious pakistani but at the time of appoinmentt in pakistan some one yaer ago he has just given us an appoinment letter and tht is our contract according to him where leaves, allowence and time of job is not mentioned in it .we r working for 6 hours morming an 3 hour in afternoon. most of our friends are annoyed of this situation although we are offered good jobs from other places but u know our NOC and rest of formalities are hurdle in this situatin. if u please give us some proper guidence we wil be thank ful. regards

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Article 50 of the labor law is very clear on this. It says that the work contract shall be in duplicate, one copy of each to be retained by the employer and the employee. A contract shall also be deemed to exist even if not written, as per Article 50.

Article 98 of the labor law says that a worker should not work for more than forty eight hours a week. During the month of Ramadan, the working hours for Muslims is 6 hours a day or thirty six hours a week. Article 101 gurantees that no worker shall work more than 5 consecutive hours without a break of no less than 30 minutes for rest, prayer and meals. Article 102 says that these periods shall not be included in the actual working hours.

You have a right to demand overtime for the hours excess of 48 hours a week @ 1.5 times the basic pay on week days and 2 times the basic pay on Fridays.

Anonymous said...

Hi,
I am Indian currently in KSA,I have got Bahrain offer for which they are providing me resident permit visa.Can I go on exit/entry from KSA and travel to India then to Bahrain? or will I be stopped at Bahrain airport because i'm having already one resident permit i.e.,of KSA?. As soon as I finsh the probation period in Bahrain 3 months can I come back to KSA to take permanent exit? Are there any problems in it?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

If you need a personalized reply, please fill in the form by clicking on the link given in the top right hand side of this blog. This would be a paid consultancy.

Anonymous said...

Is there a law that prohibits an expatriate who has gone out of KSA under EXIT visa and comes back to work to a competitor of his former company? If there isn't, what are the chances of that expatriate to be repatriated to his country if the former company sights a complaint to the Ministry of Labor that this man has access to "trade secret information" before and should be returned and banned from working again in KSA? thanks in advance in answering this.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

This is a very important question you have asked. The only weapon a current employer can have to prevent his employee from joining his competitor is not to give an NOC. The moment an employee goes on exit and returns on a fresh visa, there is absolutely nothing which the former employer can do because he lost his chance of preventing the employee from returning. Had he raised an objection to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs at the time of surrendering his employee's iqama, there would have been a stamp in the employee's passport that he could not return before a certain period. But once he has already come in, that's it!

Bashir said...

Dear Brother, i am confused about the NOC issue. i am about to go on final exit to india and plan to return on another Visa. My agent in India tells me That i need NOC from the current Employer.In your posts the last i read was that NOC was not required.Could you please inform me if i can come back immediately on another Visa without NOC. I would be highly Obliged

Expatguru said...

Bashir

Ask your agent if he has written proof. I have a written confirmation from Gheewala, one of the top agents in Mumbai, that NOC is not required for Indian citizens. I have also personally verified this with people who arrived recently. Either your agent is trying to make some quick money by taking advantage of your ignorance or he is genuinely not aware. Dont believe anything unless it is in writing. Good luck for your future.

Bashir said...

Thank you Brother. I am relieved that NOC is not required. I think the agent in India is trying to get some money out of me because he knows it is very hard in saudi to confirm anything.But we expats here are blessed that we have you to turn to.
Thank you so much Brother. May Allah Bless you

MVM said...

Dear sir,
Actually I am writing this for my friend. He is working with a public Ltd co. in KSA for the last 4 years. Now he got another good job and recently he had given his resignation and the company accepted it. Problem is that now company says they won't give him RELEASE. They give only EXIT. He came KSA 4 years back in his own free visa and joined this company. Company didnt spend a single riyal for this.
Please give us a solution

Expatguru said...

MVM,

Please fill in your query using the form through the link given in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for this. This is to segregate spam from genuine requests and also to give a personalized reply to each query.

Bashir said...

Thank you so much for the information that you are providing here. i did go back finally to india on final Exit and returned to saudi arabia within a month on a new Visa.The agent did ask me for the NOC but he relented once i told him that it was no longer necessary and confirmed the same from Gheewala.
May Allah Bless you
Have a prospwerous and a very happy NEw Year

Expatguru said...

Bashir,

Welcome back to Saudi. Wishing you good luck in your new job.

Glad to have been of help. Wishing you a very Happy New Year ahead.

Omer said...

I am from Pakistan. I have been working as a Doctor in Saudi Arabia for the last two years. On 4th January 2010, I came back on Final Exit as my Kafeel was very troublesome and was not releasing me. Now, I want to go back to Saudi Arabia with a new visa from a new employer. Is there any requirement of NOC (my previous employer didn't give me the NOC)? Also, is there any time-limit before which I cannot re-enter Saudi Arabia?

Expatguru said...

Omer,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link given in the top right hand corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for this, which would give you a personalized reply.

Mohamed said...

Dear Expat Guru,

You are a great helping hand for expatriates in KSA and deserve to be an expatguru (in my opinion you can also be called as expert guru)

I came on fianl exit from my former employer in early January 2010 with a job offer from my new employer and currently my visa is under processing. I was told by the agent in Mumbai that as per new procedure that is being implemented by Saudi Consulate,
I have to produce police clearance certificate (PCC) from the police station of my passport address. However, later on they informed me that it is not required for me as it will be implemented for files tat would be submitted on or after 15th February 2010. Do you have any clear cut information on this PCC matter?
Hope my question would be informative for new expats entering SaudiArabia as well as for people who are switcing the job within the kingdom for prepaedness on this matter. I have noticed that many expats including me have not changed their address in their passport which was issued years back. It is hereby suggested that the passport be updated with the current address for the benefit of everything and aforesaid requirement. Thanks dude..

Expatguru said...

Mohamed,

What a coincidence! I was just typing a new post on this when I saw your comment on the same subject.

mohamed said...

Dear Mohamed..
Assalamu alaikum
May you tell which agency is processing ur visa?Because for processing my visa,my agents are asking e copy of Exit visa..Is it mandatory?DId you furnish that?Plz your answer would come as a great help..Assalamu alaikum

Expatguru said...

Mohamed,

When you left the kingdom on exit, you must have been given a paper exit visa or an e-visa. This is being asked for by the Saudi consulate / embassy in India as proof that you have really left the kingdom. Whoever be your agent, you must definitely produce this as ultimately it is the Saudi officials who are going to stamp your new visa.

Mohamed said...

Hi there,
Expert guru is very right. I have provided the scanned copy of my final exit paper to the agent for visa processing on their request. This was stamped both by the Jawazath and the immigration exit counter at the airport. Moreover,I have safeguarded the final exit paper of my family for future requirement during their visa process under my new iqama. Hope it serves. Many thanks exper guru for your immediate reply to one of our brothers question.

Hakkeem said...

Dear Expat guru,Thanks for your immediate response.
It was not in my case as you have pointed out.The person who accompanied me to the airport took back the exit paper.On my request my ex-employer send me a fresh copy of that visa.It means that it doesnt have any stampings.would it work?Pls give ur comment as it ll be a big trouble for many of us..Thank youy

Expatguru said...

Hakkeem,

It is not necessary that the exit paper be stamped by Jawasat. But it will definitely be stamped by the immigration officer at the airport. However, a copy of your exit visa sent by your ex-employer along with a photocopy of your page in the passport containing the "Entry" into your home country will prove to the Saudi authorities that you have indeed left the kingdom.

Hakkeem said...

Dear Expatguru,,

Would a copy of final exit visa taken before exit at the airport prove to the saudi consulate that I came on final exit??And do you think that saudi consulate does not have mechanism to check whether the person has come only on final exit with that copy of visa?
I took the decision to come on final exit after confirming that NOC is not required.But still there is a hurdle which no one mentioned in this blog.If you write detail on this,it would be a great service to those who has made a decision to resign.Otherwise they have to suffer like me..May allah bestow with his blessings for your services..Thank you sir

Expatguru said...

Hakkeem,

This is a recent requirement by the Saudi consulate to ensure that a person has actually left the kingdom. Just produce the photocopy of your exit visa and the photocopy of the page in your passport where the "Entry" stamp of the immigration in your home country is stamped.

Mohamed said...

Dear Expatguru,

I have the following two information related to saudi visa processing for your blog. First one is regarding obtaining PCC, which is already done sucessfully by one of my friends. The procedure is simple, just to go to concerned regional passport office, pay RS.300, fill an application for PCC (under miscellanious services) mentioning name of the country for which it is required (as they are issuing PCC with country name mentioned in the passport. Note: Curently KSA and Kuwait are the only two GCC countries those need PCC for visa processing). The passport office after veriying and collecting the original passport performs the PCC issuing process based on earlier PCC clearance given during the last issue of passport and finally would send the original passport within two working days with a clearance seal in one of the passport pages along with a seperate PCC certificate issued by the regional passport officer with his signature ans seal in A4 sheet by EMS-registered post to the candidate's address mentioned in the passport. The candidate will receive his passport with this seal and PCC sent witin two working days after submission. Therefore, there is no seperate police enquiry taking place in case of no address change.

Next information is, previously Saudi Consulate had accepted even potocopy of final exit paper for visa processing. But nowadays it has become essential to submit the original final exit document while submitting the documents for visa stamping. This has happened with my case last week and therefore would like to update on this matter for the benefit of others. Hope it will serve your blog and all other Indian Brothers and sisters palnning to work in KSA.

Expatguru said...

Mohammed,

Thank you very much for the useful update. It is because of readers like you that this blog has become very rich in content and support.

I would like to clarify that the final exit paper is required only if you are going to return to Saudi Arabia for employment. It is not required if you go to work in other GCC countries.

JJ said...

Dear expatguru,
It means for entering KSA after final exit,i have to produce original of final exit document.But while i came from exit i have only photocopy of muqeem that is without any seal.so please advice how to get original exit document or is it compulsory to have that document for getting new visa.Your feedback will be appreciable and thanks for your service to keep us update.

Expatguru said...

JJ,

Photocopy of Muqeem plus photocopy of the immigration stamp in your passport when you landed in your home country are sufficient proof that you have left the kingdom. Never mind if the Muqeem copy is not stamped, what matters is that it must have been entered in the Saudi system.

Daheer said...

Dear expatguru,

I went thru your article.Very informative & simple. I am currently working in bank thru Consulting company. I am planning to switch over my job. Can you tell me whether I need the NOC for coming back. It seems that my company is very strict in this issue. Also, they will only issue only Exit/Reentry visa for me if I opt for final exit. Please guide me as to how to get relieved from my sponsor without any issues.

Expatguru said...

Daheer,

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Anonymous said...

Hi Expatguru:

I have a query!
I am working in khobar on a company visa. There is a contract of 2 years and this contract was taken on a simple paper. I am not happy with my company. I want to change my job to another country (like qatar or bahrain). i have a exit / re-entry on my passport. i may go for a leave in coming months. what if i do not come back and let the exit/re-entry expires. and i take up a job in another country? also, can i travel on business visa from other country (qatar or bahrain) to saudi? i am in sales and my job demands travelling.

please help me out in resolving this.

der

Expatguru said...

Der,

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farhankhan412 said...

Dear Sir,

I would like to inform you that i was working in Saudi Arabia since December 2007 and i came on vacation to India and my visa has been expire and also i don't want to go back in the same company. but they didn't issued to me NOC so please tell me what would be the process to get NOC or other-way to get NOC.

waiting for your kind support on the above mention regards and it would be much appreciated.

Tarique Khan

Expatguru said...

Tarique,

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LALJEEV said...

Hi

Thanks for your informational blog. I'm looking for a solution for getting a new Work Visa.

I was working in Jeddah for a company for around 3 years and came back to India on March 2010 on Re-Entry Visa and never returned for some personal reason. I sent my resignation letter over mail and they accepted it. Now I got offer from another company. I almost completed 1 yesr after exit KSA and my previous employes not ready to issue NOC. So would it make any issue of getting Work Visa or shall I wait for another 1 more year to enter KSA. Also is there any other possibility of getting enter KSA with Business Visa

Thanks in advance

M Abdulla

Expatguru said...

Abdulla,

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navas said...

i am working in ksa for last two years and came back to india on march 2011 with a valid exit-re erntry visa.if their is any problem to get a job visa to united arab emirates or to qathar
please make it clear and thanks in advance.

Expatguru said...

Navas,

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Anonymous said...

Dear Expatguru,

This is really a one of the best sites that I had ever visited. I am a Indian and I am currently working in Saudi Arabia. I am about to leave Saudi by few months.
My question is, Is NOC currently/ still needed to come back to Saudi Arabia?
I got some offers from other MNC's in Saudi Arabia and they are still insisting me to have NOC to join them.
Hope for the positive response/ help from your end.

Regards,
Raju

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

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kumar gaurav said...

hi expat guru
i m gaurav(mechanical engineer) from india.i have been offered job from M.R.AL KHATHLAN in saudia but they r offerin me general electrician visa should i accept their offer or not.i have all my documents legally attested with saudi embassy,HRD & ministrys

Expatguru said...

Kumar Gaurav,

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Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

Would you please advise: my current employer is asking me to sign an undertaking that says I would not be working for any competitor for two years although it is not mentioned in my contract.
- Do you think I am obliged to provide the undertaking although its not mentioned in the contract
- This undertaking will have any bearing if I sign & come back on a visa of a competitor

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

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