Saturday, November 8, 2008

NOC required again for Indians?

I have received a couple of emails this morning (8th November, 2008) from my friends that the Saudi consulate in Mumbai has now changed their rules regarding NOC. The emails say that the requirement of No Objection Certificate for those wanting to change jobs in Saudi Arabia, is being re-introduced.
I am unable to immediately either confirm or deny this, as I have to verify the genuineness in these emails. Both the emails are only 'forwarded' ones, and it is quite difficult to predict at this stage whether the news is only a rumour or whether it is genuine.
I have with me an official document which says that NOC was no longer required for Indians, which was what prompted me to write an earlier article (Click here to read the same). Just as expatriates were breathing a bit easy, it appears that things don't change so fast.
I am now in the process of verifying whether the draconian rule is really being re-introduced. As a matter of abundant precaution and safety, I would advise all my readers who are planning to return to the kingdom for employment, to take an NOC from the current employer. Once I get some confirmed and reliable information, I would immediately post the same here.
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LATEST UPDATE ON THE ABOVE POST (1st DECEMBER, 2008)
I have just received an email from a leading recruitment agent in India, Jerry Varghese, who has confirmed that the Saudi Consulate in Mumbai has once again withdrawn its recent change in the NOC rule. So, No Objection Certificate is no longer required for Indian citizens who have left the kingdom on an exit visa and who wish to reenter the kingdom for employment. For those who have left on exit/reentry visa, they have to wait for one year before they can return for employment. Obviously, it appears that pressure from employers in the kingdom, who are already reeling under a severe manpower crunch, has worked. For the moment, let's celebrate!

111 comments:

Anonymous said...

hello expat guru,

i happened to share this info with an HR person in leading mobile company.He said that they received the same email from Gheewala and confirmed its genuine.

Regards,

Anonymous said...

S H O C K I N G.... NEWS.

Anonymous said...

Im sorry my questions are off topic. Feel free if you would like to put it in other post's comment, but please let me know which one.

A prominent company in Jeddah is offered me an engineering manager position with starting salary usd 1500 - 2000 per month. I really don't have any idea if this salary is considered underpaid or average, particularly among expats.
I have to make decision since I am paid more than that in my home country. It is because I don't like the current environment at my company which encourage me to find another job.

Also, could you please advise me whether Saudis will receive the same payment in the same position or will they always have the previledge of higher remunerations?

Thank you in advance and your blog is really great.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

I am glad you asked this question before coming to the kingdom. My advice to you is: you are better off in your home country. Please read these links

http://workinginsaudiarabia.blogspot.com/2007/06/what-do-you-want.html

http://workinginsaudiarabia.blogspot.com/2007/06/different-salaries-same-job.html

If it is the working environment which is bothering you, it is better to switch to another job in your home country, particularly when you are paid better than here.

Anonymous said...

hi,

i also have a question which is not related to this particular blog..

i had arrived in Saudi Arabia on 18th Oct on business visa of 15days.. however my stay got extended and the HR of my company forgot(?????) to extend our visa... and i didnt knew that i have to leave SA in 15days.. when i was going back to india on 5th Nov, the immigration authorities cancelled back my tickets and sent me back...
i have re applied for the visa extension on 8th Nov..
can u tell me when can i fly back to india... and what problems will i face...

thanks a lot in advance

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

There is a fine of SR10,000 plus imprisonment for this. The Saudis are extremely strict about it. Of course, it is not your fault, but your sponsor has to take complete responsibility for it. Chances are high that you will be deported (meaning that you cannot re-enter the kingdom again), but you may require a very strong wasta to avoid imprisonment.

RAM said...

Hi,
currently iam working in saudi arabia as a cadd designer, but unfortunately my sponsor brought me in home driver VISA.

Before one month I heard that there is no need of NOC, so I put the resignation to my contract for EXIT and I am planning to leave Saudi Arabia by the end of this month.

But it was really a shocking news for me that the Saudi labour law again revised for requirement of NOC.

Anyway one of my friends told me that for “HOME DRIVER” Visa, there is no need of NOC in returning back to Saudi Arabia once we go by EXIT.

I would like to seek your advice on whether I could go back to India on “EXIT” and return in a new visa without NOC.

Awaiting for your valuable advice.

Expatguru said...

Ram,

The sudden change in the rule (if it really has happened - I am yet to get a written confirmation officially) - has put a lot of expatriates like you under severe pressure. Please take an NOC from your current sponsor, as a matter of safety. In the worst case scenario that you do not get an NOC, the only option is for you to search in other countries.

Anonymous said...

I have already resigned and I have visa with me. As NOC was not required I just came back to India without NOC. I have visa with me. But Now I am in trouble here. Unlucky... what I can say more than that. I wonder, why these people didnt give a time frame to implement a law or changes... really not fair ...

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Are you sure that this rule has been implemented? Did you contact the Saudi consulate/embassy yourself? How sure are you about this new rule? Could you please confirm it here as a service to fellow expatriates, because all we know as of now is just a few emails going back and forth.

Don't lose hope. Just contact your new employer and explain to him the problem. Nothing is impossible in Saudi Arabia. If your new employer has enough wasta, everything can be managed. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Hi Expatguru and other expatriates,

As you advised me above reply, I couldnt check directly with Saudi Consulate. But here in Calicut, I checked with the travel agency to whom my visa Wakala has given, (Safiya Travels). They said, if the visa profession is House maid, House driver, then no need of NOC, but for all other profession now NOC is required. Even I went with my papers, but they rejected to process saying that, they are now returning the papers they recieved without NOC cuz of this rule. At the same time I found some other guys also with the same problem. For a hope, I checked with them whether it will change soon or not, they said, It is Saudi Arabian laws, so anytime anything can be. Now, I am thinking to contact my old employer to get an NOC, cuz, I resigned and even was smoother with them until the last day. Also I worked with low salary. I kept work ethics during my long period with them. So I hope a soft corner from them. It is funny that, my two cousins did same as mine, but they were lucky enough to get stamped their visas.I checked with Travel agency whether they have any official info from consulate, they said YES.
Anyway, I hope and pray for the good news soon for all of us. Thanks Expatguru for providing such a nice platform for discussing the issue and giving advises.

Anonymous said...

Sir,

I Came on exit from saudi on mar 06 2007 to INDIA. I Was on job visa. My sponsor didnt make the IQAMA. Because within a short duration(2 moths) I came back from saudi Because My mother Expired.

Can I apply for New visa and go to saudi or Still NOC is required for me.....

Your urgent reply will be appreciated.

Thankyou.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

First of all thanks a lot for the update. Do get the help of your friends in the kingdom to get your NOC. Good luck!

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

You came on exit from the kingdom and you have crossed one year. So you do not need an NOC anymore and can go on a fresh visa to the kingdom.

Anonymous said...

Dear sir
good service by you may god help you here and here after(Rabbana atina fiddunya hasantaun wafil akhirati hasanataun wakhina azabannar).

my qustion is that, my boss will give me noc but he will write in the letter that in saudi you cannot work as your profession is, other then that you can work eg. if i am computer tech then i cannot work in any computer field please gide me and give me some solution.thanks

Expatguru said...

Get the NOC from him first. Then ask your new employer to provide you a visa with a profession different from your existing one. This will solve your problem.

Anonymous said...

Dear friend

we are thankfull to you that your are doing a very good job. my god help you every time and every were (ameen).

My question is that i have left 5 months in my iqama to finish my contract but because i have found a good job i want to go exit and come back in one month to saudi, but my boss is not giving me realise so what should i do to get realise as soon as in 15 to 20 days, is there any law for it or not. please gide me it whould be help full for me.

other question
i gave him resignation latter he throug it in dust bin but when i asked him give me the copy of the resignation latter he told me i trough it. but i asked him did you accept my resignation he told me yes then i told him that way did you throug the copy he became angery and told me that i have accepted your letter ok. is it good ot take the resignation copy or leave it on what he said to me .
what are the rule if i give resignation and what are the rules if he terminats me (benifits & Drowbacks)

thanks
may god help you

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Legally, you cannot force your sponsor to give you a release. Secondly, it appears that your sponsor is quite angry with you. The only way out of this mess is to bargain with him saying that you are ready to forgo some of your benefits like return air ticket and instead he should give you an NOC. This is the only way out.

Anonymous said...

dear friend

i have head a new news that if yor working with one sponser for more then one or two or three years the sponser has no right to make the employee as default exit(that the employee is unfit for him). But the employee have the right to take exit or take kafala and the sponser cannot do any damage to the employee. Is it true please find out or any thing regarding this. we will be great full to you and the people who get a good job.

Your urgent reply will be appreciated.

Thankyou.

Expatguru said...

Friend,

What you heard is not true. As long as you are under someone's sponsorship, you are virtually under his control and unless your sponsor decides, you cannot take a release or an NOC without his knowledge. The best way is to quit the company or the country.

A. Sheik said...

sir,

I have resigned my job before 3months,as per the rule of NOC not required to indians.end of this month my employer will sent me to india without NOC.now i have a good offer in ksa from a another employer.my question is ,
1. may i come back to KSA in visit visa with out NOC WITH IN 3 MONTHS after my exit?
2. how long i can extend the visa after my entry.
3.tell me the rules to get a visit visa

Expatguru said...

Sheik,

Unfortunately, you are one among the several people who have been affected by this new change in the rule, without any notice. Remember that it is illegal to work while on a visit visa. If caught, there is a fine of SR10000 plus imprisonment plus deportation, so really it is not worth it. The other option is a 'Business visa' but usually it is for a short-term duration only. You will not have an iqama, so cannot get a driving license, or a bank account or even bring your family. So, the best option is to try some other country.
Sheik, the world does not come to an end just because one country has closed its doors! God is great and opportunities are available in other countries and who knows, maybe in your own home country! Good luck!

Sajeed said...

Dear Expatguru,

Thanks for your efforts for helping the Expats. I am also in a similar situation as some of our friends. I got a offer from a global engineering company with offices spread through out the middle east. What would be my alternatives to enter KSA, even after going on Exit with out NOC. I am thinking of asking the company to locate me to Bahrain, from which I come on business Visa to KSA to handle the Jobs frequently for 1 year. Can I come on bussiness visa to KSA from Bahrain or other middle east countries? If yes, how frequently and how long can I stay in KSA on that visa?

Expatguru said...

Sajeed,

It depends on the nature of business visa your new employer is applying. Sometimes it is valid only for 15 days, while in some cases it can go upto 3 months. There is no hard and fast rule. Once the validity expires, you will have to go back to your home country and wait till a new business visa arrives. This would typically take about 20 days. So, it all depends on your new employer and his clout.

Anonymous said...

Dear Expat Guru,

Can u please confirm whether I can return to saudi arabia on a house driver visa wihtout NOC after going on final exit.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Without an NOC, you can return to the kingdom:

a) After one year from the date of your departure, if you have left on an exit visa

b) After two years from the date of your departure, if you have left on an exit/reentry visa.

It doesn't matter whether your visa is a driver or any other profession. The rule applies to all.

Sajeed said...

Dear Expatguru,

If I go on ext with out NOC, can I come on Business visa for short visa to KSA??

Regards,

Expatguru said...

Sajeed,

You can, provided you do not "work" during that period. From a purely legal point of view, one is not supposed to "work" while on a business visa because this type of visa is used mainly for short business trips.

Roby said...

Dear sir,
The rule of NOC means we are same like slaves under a sponsor without any rights. What is your opinion if we give a petition to Human Rights Commission against this rule??

Also I would like to ask you, can i come on visit visa after I leave on exit visa without NOC??

Expatguru said...

Roby,

You can certainly come on a visit visa, but please remember that if you are caught working for someone, you will be jailed for it.

Anonymous said...

Hi, first of all i would like to say this is a great blog. I would also like to know the best resource for finding work in Saudi Arabia, i am a British citizen and would be interested in working in many different sectors. Please contact me ianclow@hotmail.co.uk
Any help would be much appreciated.
Kind regards Ian Clow.

Expatguru said...

Ian,

Thanks for your comments. There are plenty of employment sites available and it all depends on what you are actually looking for. I would suggest you to do a simple Google search for "employment agencies in Saudi Arabia" and you should be able to get quite a few of them. Good luck!

anil said...

dear guru the current employers ,i think,never provide N O C ......... so kindly check the genuineness of this news.....

Expatguru said...

Anil,

Sitting in Saudi Arabia, I am unable to verify immediately this news and am dependent on people;s experiences who have approached the Embassy and have been rejected due to this problem. Sure, no employer would give an NOC, but just until a few months ago, an employee need not have to get an NOC either. The whole problem is that it is already there in Saudi Law that there is no need for an NOC (some say to satisfy WTO requirements?), but this law has never been implemented. So, here we are back to the bad old days, unfortunately.

Anonymous said...

Dear Expat Guru, Can you Plz look into 15th Nov's Arab news- law and you column. It is mentioned that there is no NOC rule in Saudi Embassy and one does not require to stay for a yr to return back. It also states that the Saudi missions abroad may have advised to ask for it. Can you kindly comment on it after reading that comment.
Thanx

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

The rule saying that NOC was not required was passed as early as 2006. But it was never implemented. Please read my earlier post on this:

http://workinginsaudiarabia.blogspot.com/2007/06/switching-jobs-in-saudi-kalli-valli.html

To a new-comer to Saudi Arabia, it would appear extremely strange that there is a law but it is never implemented. But that is how the system is. I wrote the above post in June, 2007 and now almost after a year and a half, we are back to Square One, unfortunately.

Gulfie said...

Dear expat guru,

I came back to India from Saudi in september after spending 18 years with one company. I was expected to go back to a better job in Saudi. My passport was submitted but rejected due to some network problems. The next time it was submitted by the agency, this new rule was in place. Is there any way that my exit earlier to the rule may have some consideration to waive off the NOC requirement.

Anonymous said...

Will Saudi consulate in Mumbai have any website and can we check the status of the Visa Endosement, Please help me, I really appriciate your help in this regards....
Please if any one can help me email me here - smavia_sma@yahoo.co.in
Thanks in Advance.

Expatguru said...

Gulfie,

You are one among the many unfortunate people who are affected by this rule which was imposed without any notice. Unless there is a change of heart by the officials of the Saudi Consulate, I do not expect any relaxation in this rule, atleast for the moment.

Biju said...

Dear Expatguru,
As per your advise I already changed my profession from Labor to Electronic Technicia ( Fanny Electroniyat) by bringing my Orginal Diploma certificate attested and finished all procedures.Now I could apply for family Visa? What are the things I need to arrnge for appling for family visa? please reply.

Expatguru said...

Biju,

Congratulations on the profession change. Now just follow the instructions in the link below:

http://workinginsaudiarabia.blogspot.com/2008/08/permanent-family-visa-for-saudi-arabia.html

Indian said...

Dear Sir, I came from Saudi Arabia to Indian one month back on FINAL EXIT but without NOC.

Now my new employer wants to send a Saudi visit visa for me. Please inform if NOC is required or not for my case.

Also my new employer wants to convert the visa visaa to job visa once i enter Saudi Arabia.

Expatguru said...

Indian,

First of all please note that if you are caught working while on a visit visa, you will be jailed and later on deported. Secondly, it is impossible to get a work visa without an NOC. So, I will advise you to just forget about working in Saudi Arabia for one year.

Anonymous said...

Dear All,

IN THE NAME OF ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICIENT AND MERCIFUL.

THIS IS MY REAL EXPERIENCE.

"NOC AGAIN REQUIRED for INDIANS" is all fake news.

I came from saudi arabia on 1st Nov, 2008 without NOC (since my employer did not provide any NOC.) with employment visa of other company and got it stamped succesfully on 29th Nov, 2008.

Please don't get fooled by the fake news.

SO CHEERS & BEST WISHES/LUCKS TO ALL.

Expatguru said...

The above message has been received from a reader who has written anonymously. Hence, it is impossible to verify the same. What I do have, like most other expatrites, is an forwarded email from a leading manpower recruitment agent in Mumbai, (G.Gheewala), which said that NOC was indeed required. I wrote a mail to the agent directly asking the genuineness of this information, but never got a reply.

As a matter of abundant precaution, I advise all the readers to PLEASE TAKE AN NOC from your current employer if you want to enter the kingdom again for employment. Better to be safe than sorry.

Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous,

Could you please give me your email or phone to discuss furthermore, since I have an oppurtunity to join another company in KSA. The company is providing me the visa. I am still in the dilemma whether to go for it or not?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

As a matter of policy, I do not wish to reveal my private email id or phone number. The only way to reach me is through the comment box provided here.

imran said...

hello sir,

i m working as a house driver, i want to know that if i will go on exit then, can i come back on another visa or not. for house drivers do we need NOC

Expatguru said...

Imran,

It depends on your nationality. As per the latest information received today (1st December, 2008), Indian nationals do not need an NOC, provided you go on exit visa. Please read the update which I have posted above. If you go on an exit/reentry visa, you cannot return for upto 1 year. This applies to all professions. If you are not an Indian citizen, please check with the Saudi Embassy in your country.

Anonymous said...

Dear Expatguru,

You are doing a great job. God will definetily reward you for your outstanding service.

Regards,

Anonymous said...

Hi Expatguru,

First of all let me commend you for your fabulous work on this blog. It is really very informative and right to the point. Thanks for the effort.

I learnt from my boss yesterday that the NOC had been revoked (i.e. you need to have an NOC) by Saudi consulate in India. On hearing this, I confirmed the same with my travel agent in India and he confirmed this to me. However, on reading your blog I came across that NOC is no longer required. I am really in a dilemma as to what is the exact outcome. Please guide

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

What I have written here is the latest development. For a short duration, NOC was indeed insisted by the Saudi Consulate in Mumbai. Yesterday, I have received an official mail from a leading travel agent in Mumbai, Jerry Varghese, who deals regularly with the Saudi Consulate. The mail says that the NOC requirement has once again been relaxed. You are free to contact Jerry Varghese, Mumbai, directly and find out yourself.

Anonymous said...

Hello sir,
I will be grateful if you could provide me the contact number or e-mail address of Jerry Varghese.
Thanks and best regards.

Anonymous

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

It is unethical to pass on someone's email id to an anonymous third party without their permission. I would advise you to do a simple Google search for Jerry Varghese and get the details yourself. Hope you understand.

Anonymous said...

Dear Expatguru,

I agree it is totally unethical to pass one's ID with out his permission but this applies to the people who are not in the public bussiness (i.e., of friends and family). Here Jerry Varghese is the recruitment agent, you can ask the agent whether to pass your ID to others.
If it is open to public on google, there is no harm giving the ID to others. I am scared now, Is this news genuine or fake? I need to confirm.

Rehaan said...

Dear ExpatGuru First of all Thanks for confirming this news. Apploud to you buddy.
Really was in mess as i came on exit at the same time NOC rule revoked but now a bit relaxed.soon will get back to the kingdom.

Thnax for your outstanding updates at earliest for the expats.

Rehaan

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

When you have yourself not revealed your identity and prefer to remain anonymous, why should I reveal someone else's email id without his permission? I told you the way out, just do a simple Google search for Jerry Varghese and you will find out all his details in his website or find out from any of your friends based in Mumbai. It is not a top secret thing!!

Anonymous said...

Dear Expatguru,

I found the address on JV website. Anyhow, I still appreciate your efforts and great help that you are doing.

Anonymous said...

Yes,Its True ..I had an email from Gheewala stating that No NOC is required for Final exit ..Lets celebrate

Santhosh Goud Sammeta said...

Thank you Expatguru, really its happy news for all indians

Anonymous said...

Dear Expat Guru,

I am really happy to know that the NOC rule has yet again been removed.But to my suprise Jerry Varghese has still listed NOC as a requirement for the employees who left the kingdom on an Exit Visa.

Can you please clarify this?

Thanks

Here is the link. Click on KSA.

www.jerryvarghese.com/jobseekers_04doc.htm

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

It appears that they did not bother to update their website. You can verify this directly with Jerry Varghese.

Anonymous said...

Dear Expat Guru,

Greetings! You are Great info provider.
Iam Thiru from TamilNadu, India.
atpresent iam working in riyadh in one concern iam not satisfied to work here.
I tried some other concern, they are ready to give job. But, they are not providing VISA.

So, Please tell me where can i get Free Visa particulary computer related. (their mandatory requirement is computer related visa like computer technician, computer programmer, computer operator, computer consultant, stc...)

Please tell the contact details.
Awaiting for your valuable reply.

This help is to give the way for my life.

Thanks and Regards,
Thiru

Expatguru said...

Thiru,

If your potential employer is not ready to provide a visa for you, it is not even worth going to that company. You will be treated badly for sure, because it would mean that you are desparate for a job. You are a qualified person. Don't worry about your future. Start applying with all the major job agents like bayt.com, naukri.com, etc. Very soon, you will land up with a telephonic interview and a better job in India or another country. Dont even attempt to buy a visa, because it is not really worth the effort - remember you will ultimately have to pay a hefty amount for it, so think about it. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

Good pm sir,

I find your blog, it's amazing and helpful for seek any query. I would like to ask something....
I want to go on exit/re-entry visa, shall I have to go for finger and eye prints which required from jawajat new rule or this rule only effect for those people who's going to renew Iqama only.
Other thing I want to go exit, I can come back Saudi after how long 6months or 1 year. If I have NOC with chamber of commerce. Suppose I went on exit can I go to other country as the new rule of finger prints. Allah keep blessing on you, you are doing such a nice work. Best of luck & thanks in advance.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Fingerprints are usually taken at any point of time even while you are in the kingdom. If you have not given your fingerprints, for sure when you go on exit you will be asked to give yours. If you have an NOC you can come back immediately. If you go on exit without an NOC, you can come back after 1 year, but if you go on exit/reentry without NOC, you can come back only after 2 years.

Anonymous said...

Dear Expatguru,

You are doing a great job here by brining awareness to all of us regarding the Saudi Labor Law and that in one sense could prove to be either fruitful or disastrous for everone relying upon the updates here...

I also would like to present my case to you for a reliable/genuine feedback to the best of your knowledge on the current labo laws in force...

I am currently working in Saudi Arabia on a "Instrumentation Engineer" visa. Although my profession is related to Chemical Engineering. I currently have an offer from another Saudi Company and am interested to join them. My current contract with the existing employer states validity for 1 year from the date of issue, with a clause of renewal upon mutual agreement. Also it states 30 days notice to be served by either parties in the event of resignation or termination. Also to mention that there is nothing specified in the contract regarding no empoyment to be accepted from another employers in KSA and also no duration specified for me not to work for any other company in KSA. I request you to throw some light on the questions I have below;

1. Can I simply resign from my current job, take an exit visa and without any difficulties obtain a new work visa that will be sponsored by the new prospected employer?

2. Do I need to obtain any NOC from my current employer? I ask this because I am likely to join a direct competitor company and that could cause problems while obtaining the new work visa from the saudi Consulate/Embassy in India?

3. As did I mention that I am currently on a Instrumentation Engineer Visa and my profession realtes to Chemical Engineering,in absence of NOC, should I request my prospected employer to provide me a visa different than a Instrumentation Engineer Visa? Could this help from avoiding any kind of problems in obtaining the new work visa in India?

4. Lastly, if at all I could obtain an NOC from my current employer, please advise if that is just a written matter on the company letter head or it requires some standard/legal attestations? If yes, what are all the other details to be furnished on the NOC by the employer/govt bodies and from which govt. bodies it requires attestations within KSA before exit?

Thanks again for all your efforts and kind work.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

I presume from your queries that you are an Indian national. In that case, you do not need an NOC anymore, unless you it is mentioned so in your contract with the current employer. You will find details of NOC from the archives in this blog.

Anonymous said...

HI,
i called up indian embassy in riyadh and they said we need NOC from the employer. so this is true that the rule has came back.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

It appears that the Indian Embassy is not updated. People have come back recently from India without NOC. For your own satisfaction, please call the agent Jerry Varghese in Mumbai and verify yourself, because they are sending people to the kingdom everyday.

Abdul Qayoom said...
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Expatguru said...

Abdul Qayoom,

Read my blog thoroughly, particularly this post, including all comments and you will find the answer here.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

Pl see the below mail which i got from indian embassy.....iam in a dilema wat to do and whom to believe..........!!!!!!!!!!!


As per new Saudi rule a candidate who arrives India on exit visa and wishes to travel again to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, he should hold attested NOC letter from his previous employer then only his visa will be stamped by the Saudi Consulate or else his visa can be stamped after one year of his stay in India. Similarly, a candidate who arrives India on exit re-entry and does not ravel back to Saudi Arabia, his visa can be stamped after 2 years only.

CW Section,
Consulate General fo India.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Whatever I write in this blog has been verified by me personally. I already told you earlier that Jerry Varghese has confirmed the new change in the NOC rule. Also, I know people who have entered the kingdom after the change in the rule.

Since you are in so much of anxiety ("iam in a dilema wat to do and whom to believe..........!!!!!!!!!!!"), just lift the phone, call Jerry Varghese in Mumbai and verify yourself!

By the way, it is totally up to you to believe me or Jerry Varghese or anyone else.

Gulfie said...

Dear Expatguru,

I am one of the unfortunate who had been affected by the NOC problem. I had also written about this on this blog earlier about the problem.

Now I would like to give first hand information that my visa has been stamped in this week, without NOC. So it has been physically confirmed that NOC is not required for Indians as of now.

Thanks for the dissipation of relevant authentic information by you, Expat guru.

Expatguru said...

Gulfie,

Welcome back! Thanks so much for sharing this information for the benefit of fellow expatrites. Good luck to you in your new job.

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Dear expatguru
Iam really overjoyed to see this wonderfull informative blogsite with thorough information on many issues which were question mark fr me for long.I chanced upon your website from google search when i wanted info on issues related to entry exit visa date expiry,
Thanking allah GOD i narrowly made it back to KSA from INDIA were i was on emergency ,my family was in KSA,I totally overlooked the fact of hijri calendar dates
when in INDIA on multiple visa I
learnt on afternoon ,that day was my last day for entry back in KSA i ran madly to agent by GODS miracalmiracle there was flight in evening to riyadh got seat reached riyadh night before 12 stamped my entry.I made it thru hell really the mistake i was under impression of christian calendar .
I went thru your blog on procedures of reentry i felt the GODs mercy, miracle which saved me from hell with my family who were in KSA
Now i have posted your web address in mails to my all friends circle to infom them of this great bolg site
Thanks for great effort Best of Luck

Expatguru said...

Indexpatjubksa,

Thanks for your comments. Glad to know that my blog has been of help to you.

joseph said...

Dear Sir,
Is NOC required for indians.I got a good job offer in another company .They have engineer visa for india.I want to know whether it is possible to come back to Saudi without NOC.Another question is about the attestation of my degree certificates,i have already attestted my certiicates before when i came here.Is there anything do be done for attestation.Any idea about how much time i will take to get visa endorse in my passport.

faithfully
Joseph

Expatguru said...

Joseph,

All your queries have been answered in this post as well as in the archives in detail. Please go through all the topics carefully.

Husain said...

Dear Expatguru,

What a Blog? Really commendable...
I just wanted to share my discussion with one of India's recruitment consultant for KSA. I asked him if the NOC was still required and gave reference to your blog's mentioning that Gheewala and Jerry Vergease have said that NOC is no longer required, after it was re-imposed. He told that agents have not got a written confirmation from the consulate, but at the same time, visas are being endorsed even without NOC.

I believe the authorities are being silent on the subject while at the same time not backtracking from their WTO commitments.

Regards,
Husain

Anonymous said...

Hello Expatguru,

First of all, thanks for the excellent work by starting this blog, which is really helpful.

My doubt is related to NOC. Is NOC is simple no objection certificate, written on plain paper or this one needs to be attested by different govt. bodies in Saudi? If yes, then kindly give the procedure.

Thanks

Expatguru said...

Husain,

Absolutely right. When something is written in black and white, it is immediately brought under the scanner. But when you have a law and do not implement it, you can't prove anything because the law is already there. This is the way the system works!

Expatguru said...

NOC is a simple piece of paper stating that the current employer has no objection to the employee returning to the kingdom for employment. It has 2 columns, both English and Arabic and has to be signed by the authorized sponsor whose signature is registered in the Chamber of Commerce. It must have the stamp of the sponsor also. This letter has to be attested by the Chamber of Commerce. If you go to any professional agent, he would be having the standard template.

Anonymous said...

Hello Expatguru,

Thanks for your reply

Does the whole process of NOC is being done by the employer, or the employee, who is seeking for NOC, has to do this, starting from preparation of the NOC document, getting authorised signature in the organisation and then with the indian chamber of commerce?

Thanks & Regards

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Of course it is the employee who has to do all the work. What benefit does the employer has running around for the employee who wants to leave?

Abdul Qayoom said...

Dear Sir,
Thank You for such a wonderful blog, is there any update on the current NOC rule, because i have resigned and i will be returning back in march on final exit i dont have a NOC from my employer iam a bit apprehensive what will happen if suddenly the rule changes? So Please update me about the present status.

Thank You

Expatguru said...

Abdul Qayoom,

As of today, Indian nationals do not need an NOC to return to the kingdom for employment, provided you go on exit, not exit/reentry. If you are not an Indian, please check up with the Saudi embassy in your country.

Hasan I. said...

Hello Expat Guru,
Thank you for the information

Just a correction to the above comment of your's after going through your blogs :

NOC not required for Indians who come on exit and wish to return after 1 year and

NOC not required for Indians who come on exit- re entry and wish to return after 2 years

Moreover do you have any idea if the power of attorney for the visa stamping is now being submitted online.

Expatguru said...

Hasan,

Thanks for your comments. I would like to clarify as below.

If you are an Indian national and have left the kingdom on an exit visa, you can return immediately for employment on another sponsor's visa without the need for an NOC from the current employer. There is no need to wait for one year in this case. I personally know people who have done so recently.

If you are an Indian national and have left the kingdom only on an exit/reentry visa and do not have an NOC, then you need to wait for one year before you can return for employment with another sponsor.

Please read the update of 1st December, 2008 mentioned in the above post.

Beyond 2 years, irrespective of your nationality, you can return for employment without an NOC, provided that there are no criminal cases pending against you.

thomas said...

Dear Sir,
One of my friends resigned and wants to go exit. But our sponsor demanded to sign a letter which states that he will never comeback to Saudi Arabia. We are shocked by this. My friend already have good offer from other company. So he don’t want sign this letter. Without signing sponsor don’t allow to go. So my friend wants to approach labour court. I want know that, has sponsor right to demand this kind of letter? Can my friend can win from the labour court? Pls advice
Thomas

Expatguru said...

Thomas,

Is your friend an Indian? If so, he does not need an NOC. Ask him to go ahead and sign (just to get the exit visa). No point in wasting time in the labour court. Only thing is ask your friend to make sure that he goes on exit and not exit/reentry. He can come back and work legally on a fresh visa. In case his current employer complains, it has no legal bearing. If your friend is not an Indian national, then he needs to check with the Saudi embassy in his country about how soon he can get back without an NOC.

Anonymous said...

Dear Guru ,
can u kindly send me the link of the saudi gazzete or government gazzete of saudi arabia saying that NOC requirement for indians is not require .

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,
I have came back to saudi arabia and the previous employer is troublng me with the issue of the NOC , he complained to the labour court that i have come to saudi without noc from india and they have called me to the labor court , already i am working here for 6 months with present employeer and now only they are putting up all this , i even have completed contract and got exit visa and stamped ne visa on the same passport itself. will thhey trouble me ?,is there any law which is there to support him? kindly reply my family is in deep agony.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

If you are an Indian national and have gone on exit from the previous employer, you do not need an NOC anymore. Even if he calls you to the labor court, do not worry, because legally if NOC was required, the Saudi Embassy would not have issued you a work visa. Secondly, you would have got turned back at the airport on arrival from India. Just keep your cool, ask your family not to worry.

Expatguru said...

Article 120 of the Executive bylaw of the Labor Law, implemented on the 20th April, 2007, has clearly mentioned that No Objection Certificate is no longer required. There is no online link, but this information should be adequate to meet your legal requirements, if any. As mentioned earlier, if you are an Indian national, and if the Saudi Embassy has issued you a valid visa, then you are legally entitled to work here. Do not be bullied by your ex-employer. If he takes you to court, the case would be summarily dismissed.

Anonymous said...

Thank U so much sir for the reply ,

Razzaq said...

Dear Guru,
I am an Indian Citizen and working over here in Saudi Arabia on resident visa. I have came back to India from my previous employer( Contracting supply company) on last year beginning and on exit visa. After some months i got a job on Saudi with a new employer fortunately and unfortunately the job got was on the same company where I worked as a contractor and i came back on new visa and after started working previous employer is gone to court mentioning that i do not have NOC, and i don't have right to work where i came as a contractor Is there any law which prevent me working here? Noc is not applicable in this case?, kindly reply back.

Expatguru said...

Razzaq,

Read my reply given above.

Abdullah said...

Dear Guru,
I'm a non-indian national and about 5 months ago I have returned on new work visa without NOC as it was not required by the embassy during the stamping of visa. I am wondering if my previous employer could create any problem for me if gets to know? I read your post above, however, the law has a vague trade secret or confidential information clause. I by any reasonable means cannot disclose any trade secret as now Im in completely different client industry. What do you comment on it?

Expatguru said...

Abdullah,

I am quite cautious while commenting on the NOC clause for non-Indians for the simple fact that I do not know whether it has been implemented or not. For Indian citizns, I have a written document in my possession, which is why I can confidently write what I have written.

Since the Saudi Embassy in your country has issued you a valid visa, there should be no reason for you to worry. Objections, if any, should have been raised while issuing the visa, not after a person has landed in the kingdom. However, without knowing how much 'wasta' your previous employer has, as a matter of caution I would advise you to keep a low profile for atleast 1 year and not even talk to your friends from the previous company.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

Thank u soooo very much this is the best and genuine blog i have recently returned from saudi arabia on final exit without a NOC and my new visa has been stamped and i received my passort with new visa....i will be travelling soon so once the visa is stamped will there be any problem at the airport in saudi as i heard they might create problems if we dont have NOC...........by the way iam Indian national

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Congrats! I can understand your relief and excitement. There should be no problem. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

I came on exit from soudi arabia in january 2009. Now i am selected for another company in soudi arabia. the company has offered me a visa. Can i go back to soudia arabia again.I dont have NOC from previous employer, but rather i have service certificate from previous employer in which they have clearly mentioned that i am free of any obligation towards their company.

In this conditions can i re-enter the kingdom.

Expatguru said...

If you are an Indian citizen, you don't need an NOC and can return immediately without the need for any document.

Anonymous said...

Sir,
With respect to my prevoius querry,
do you mean to say that indian citizens coming on exit from soudi arabia can re-enter the kingdom immediately on new job visa without NOC

Expatguru said...

Absolutely right.

Anonymous said...

Sir,

Please is there any website link where i can check the satus of mu visa endorsement.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

I am publishing a separate post on this, maybe in a day or two. Keep watching this site for the same.

Alan said...

i am working here in saudi arabia till my contract nd i am now in stage to get exit nd my sponsor is not giving he is telling for exit re entry only so wat i like to know is if i am going like tis whether i can go other gulf countries...wil tere be any problem....wil saudi wil do any run away abscond to me

Expatguru said...

Alan,

Please fill in your query in the form using the link in the top right corner of this blog. I charge a nominal fee for my consultancy, which would give you a detailed personalized reply.