Saturday, February 14, 2009

Passport and Iqama renewal

Expatriates working in Saudi Arabia need to keep a close tab on the expiry dates of their passports and iqamas. In fact, I would advise everyone to keep a personal diary of expiry dates, from istemara to driving license, from passport to iqama, from car insurance to company ID to ATM card. In fact, the wallet of an expat working in Saudi contains more paper than notes! Remember, when dealing with government agencies, all the dates pertain to Hijri calendar, not Gregorian calendar. I had mentioned in my earlier post (click here to read it) about the importance of Hijri dates and the tool to convert from one to the other (click here).




One of my colleagues recently landed up into quite a mess, which prompted me to write this post. Most embassies allow renewal of their citizens' passports upto one year before the expiry date. I would strongly urge all expats in Saudi Arabia to renew their passports much before the deadline, to avoid unnecessary trouble. Read on, to know why. There are also cases where there are less than 4 pages available in the passport. In either case, renewal of your passport on time is extremely important.




Some embassies such as the Indian Embassy in Riyadh offer the so-called "Jumbo" passports as an option. This costs slightly more, as it has more number of pages. If you are one among those frequently going on weekend trips or business trips outside the kingdom, then this is the one to go for. Some countries do not stamp their visas if your passport contains less than 2 "clean" pages, i.e., without any stamp whatsoever. For example, the Malaysian Embassy in Riyadh wants atleast 2 "consecutive" clean pages, on the left and the right, (not back to back) without any stamp, if you need their visa. I still do not understand the logic behind this, but when dealing with government agencies, you don't talk logic, you just follow their rules!




It is not adequate if you just renew your passport or simply take an additional booklet. In both these cases, the change has to be entered in your iqama. This is the most important part of the whole process, because failure to do so would land yourself in trouble when you go on vacation. What I mean is, you may be having a passport which is up to date and renewed, but if the details are not entered in the system, believe me you are really in for some shock, like my colleague.




Once you renew your passport or take an additional booklet, you MUST submit both the old and the new passports along with your iqama to the Saudi Passport Office (Jawasat). Usually, the information gets transferred in 2 weeks time (excluding Ramadan and Hajj season). The trouble is when your iqama is also about to expire during that period. Remember, the moment you give your iqama for renewal, all exit/reentry visas, including multiple visas stamped on your passport get automatically cancelled. The renewal of the iqama should normally be over in 2 weeks time, but why take the risk by procrastinating? This is why I would advise you not to wait until the last moment to renew your passport.




Always make it a habit to return to the kingdom always a couple of days prior to the expiry of your re-entry visa. If you don't, your visa gets cancelled and it is quite a long process to revive it (click here for the same). Why even ask for trouble when you can really avoid it? Afterall, all of us are here for money, so make your stay here comfortable by renewing your papers on time.



Oh, by the way, if you have submitted your papers for transfer of information to your Government Relations Officer (Mandub), how do you find out whether the transfer has really happened or not? Remember, there is no link or website nor is there any information till you reach the airport. Well, I just discovered this indirect way and want to share it with you. If you or any of your friend has an account with Al Rajhi bank, just login to the bank's website, enter your iqama number and apply for an exit/re-entry visa. If the data has already been transferred, it will ask you to confirm. Don't confirm, just log out. If the data has not been transferred, it will give out a vague message such as "the person is not present in the kingdom". If you get such a message, make sure that your passport details are updated in the system. Hope this post was helpful.

126 comments:

Micper said...

Dear Expat Guru,
Thanks for your valuable post.
Recently I renewed my Passport (Indian), and I have to transfer the visa and other details to it.
Please let me know, apart from passports and Iqama, what are the other documents required to do so, How much approx. time will it take for this process? My Iqama is valid for next 10 months.
Thanks in advance.

Expatguru said...

Micper,

Passport is the only document where you have to transfer details in the system. What the Jawasat does is to make the changes in their computer against your iqama number. All other Saudi documents are based on the iqama, not on the passport. For example, by just typing your iqama number, a police officer can easily find out all your history.

Juancho said...

Thanks for the information. It is very useful. But I have a particular predicament which was not covered in your post. Can you help? My family is currently outside the kingdom and my iqama is about to expire, do I need to return them before my iqama expire? Or can I apply total exit for my family?
thanks in advance

Expatguru said...

Juancho,

As mentioned in my post, all exit/reentry visas would get cancelled automatically when you submit your iqama for renewal. What this means is that if your family is not in the kingdom at the time of renewal, their visas would automatically become void. So, to bring them back again, you have to apply for a fresh family visa.

bankingbaba said...

hi EG, first of all let me congratulate and thank you for the comprehensive and wonderful informational blog that you are running

Can you pls tell me what would be the procedures of getting a rented accomation in riyadh

where are the good places to stay

how much would they cost for 2 bhk

Expatguru said...

Bankingbaba,

Thanks for your comments. The best way to get a good rented accommodation is by word of mouth or by contacting real estate agents. I do not stay in Riyadh and hence cannot guide you on your query. If any or the readers want to help, they are free to do so and I would publish the same here.

RA said...

sir there is no reply for my post and for the strange reason this has happened for the 2-3time that u not being replying for such queries!!

Anonymous said...

dear Expatguru,
I like to know about No Objection Certificate.
What needs to be written on it, what attesstation has to be done on it before leaving saudi.
Thanking you

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

The best way is to contact any professional agent who will be having the template. He will also guide you through the procedure.

Expatguru said...

RA,

What is your question? By the way, I get plenty of queries every day, so it is impossible for me to answer everything immediately. Blogging is only my hobby which I do free of cost, this is not my profession. I have a full-time job which pays me, so my priority is first for my job rather than my hobby.

Anonymous said...

dear expatguru,
is it possible to get an iqama for one's mother in law ? if so what is the procedure, which ministry should be contacted and how long does it take ?

thanks

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

It is not possible to get an iqama for the mother in law.

AliBaba said...

Do you suppose the trick to find out wether the changed passport details have been updated would work with Riyadh Bank? I was planning to open an account in that bank to facilitate payments of misc. fees to the govt.

Expatguru said...

AliBaba,

Honestly, I do not know because I do not have an account there.

eric said...

expatguru,

i just need some info, i'm from philippines and recently was interviewed by a saudi employer from an agency here. i am designated as secretary in the contract but the agency says i will be using a saudi visa bearing "aluminum technician" as my job. is this legal or what?

your help is highly appreciated

Expatguru said...

Eric,

Strictly speaking this is illegal, but is widely practised. What happens is that employers do not have the required visas with them. So they bring people with whatever available visa. Remember that the position of secretary is a banned one for expats. So, as long as things go smooth, you should have no problem, but you should be ready for anything.

eric said...

thanks for that info sir. you know these details (especially that secretary position is banned in saudi arabia for expats) were not really discussed by the saudi employer i've talked with. one more thing, the agency told me that i can change my profession when i get there in saudi arabia so no need for me to worry even if my visa bears "aluminum technician" as my profession, do you think this is just a false claim, sir?

thanks in advance.

Expatguru said...

Eric,

Let me clarify one thing. There are expat secretaries working in Saudi Arabia, but none of these secretaries have the profession as "secretary" in their visas. Of course, it is illegal, but then those who do take the risk continue to do so. Changing professions is not so easy, as your agency claims. Read my entire blog from the beginning so that you have a clear picture, and then take your own decision. Good luck!

Adnan said...

Sorry for posting this query here but, I couldn't find a way to e-mail you.

I was wondering if you could look into and post the procedures required to follow of a non-Saudi man who is a resident of Saudi, marrying a Saudi woman.

Thanks Guru!

Expatguru said...

Adnan,

To my knowledge, only the other way round is possible, i.e., a Saudi man can marry a non-Saudi woman (provided she is a Muslim). I have to find out details about a non-Saudi man marrying a Saudi woman. If I do get information on this, I would certainly write a post about it.

yusuf said...

Dear Expatguru,


Great work.Congrats.

Can you help me in finding out the rules applicable for children being categorized as NRI in Indian professional colleges.What is the criteria that is applied to classify as a Local or NRI quota student.

Expatguru said...

Yusuf,

I will shortly write a separate post on this.

Anonymous said...

Expatguru,

A quick clarification... I heard that the used car (in very good condition) more than 5 years old can not be imported to KSA. Is that true? Assuming that this car is from the US. Thx

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

No, it is not true. As long as you pay the customs duty, you are free to import it. What is more important though, is whether is it really worth the time, money and effort?

eric said...

dear sir,

i have some questions regarding banned professions in saudi arabia:
1. you said earlier that "secretary" post is banned for expats, may i know if document controller And or office clerk posts are also banned for expats?
2. are there any other professions related to office work that are not covered by the ban?

i really am interested to work in saudi arabia that is why i am seeking for your help...

thanks so much.

Expatguru said...

Eric,

Yes these posts are also in the banned category. In short, any white-collared support staff profession in the secretarial / administrative line is banned as they want Saudis to fill up those jobs.

eric said...

thanks again sir, one more thing, I was interviewed again by an employer for secretarial position a while ago and he said that secretarial post is not totally banned for expats, there are only restrictions applied. may i know what restrictions he was talking about? i didn't ask him further coz he might get annoyed.

Amit said...

Dear Friend,
i am very glad to say you that by the help of your blog so many foreigners are getting the exact information, thanks a lot

i have a doubt regarding that, if somebody goes on Final Exit from Kigdom, whether the sponsor will loose the same visa or not? Can he renew that visa? What about that visa if someone is not back to kigdom after his exit/re-entry visa,

waiting for your reply
Thanks Amit

Expatguru said...

Eric,

Don't go by what your employer says. Just a simple test. Ask him if he would provide you with a secretary visa. If yes, I will eat my word.

Expatguru said...

Amit,

If someone goes on exit, the sponsor doesn't lose the visa, he just loses the employee! If the employee doesn't get back, the sponsor just cancels the details of the employee from the system and goes ahead to hire someone else!

Anonymous said...

Hi expat Guru,

your are providing an invaluable service to everyone by sharing your knowledge and experience. you efforts are really appreciated.

I have a problem. I am currently in Canada with Canadian citizenship. A company in Saudi has decided to hire me but they havent hired anyone from Canada before. I have told them then I will take care of things in Canada (i.e. medical etc) but the problem is they are asking me about the visa process for getting a canadaian visa approved in saudi and they are asking me about all the documents required for me to get the visa.

I havent dealt with such a situatino before but I have been told that the process of getting a canadian visa approval in Saudi is a lengthy one which includes visits to a lot of saudi offcies like MOFA etc.

Could you please guide me and tell me what exactly do they need to do. Hoe can they get this approval. Are there any agents that they can talk to?

your response will be greatly appreciated

Expatguru said...

Waqas,

Something seems fishy. If this company has hired people from other countries, then the procedure is the same for Canada too. First of all, ensure that this company has a proper work visa for you.

Waqas said...

Thank Expat Guru,

Can you please tell me that even if I travel to Saudi on a pakistani visa because the company is not willing to through the hassle of getting me a canadian visa, is it possible to transfer my work visa to my canadian passport once I enter saudi on my pakistani passport?

Expatguru said...

Waqas,

It is impossible to do that. Not only that, remember that a Canadian passport will fetch you a better salary than a Pakistani one.

winson2k4 said...

Dear expatguru,
Hi i am erwin,from saudi arabia, i have written in your blog last time as anonymus reader. You have advise me to get out of the kingdom before 3months probation. I do have told my employer that i will not continue anymore in work and he said, he cant do anything if i dont like anymore and he allowed me to get my ticket back to my country. when my flight is get near and I want to take my passport he told me, I cant. he told me i wait for other's engineer passport to be extended next week. He keeps on promising me about this. And I am hoping this week he will give me, as i move my flight by friday (march 13). my timeframe for my 3 months probation is getting near. It is on the 18th so i am worried about this. The reason that i don t want to stay in this employer is because he is full of illegalities, and I feel not safe in his custody.some of his employees dont have iqama's even they are 5-7 months already. they dont have medical cards insurance. one thing also, is delayed salaries. 2-4 months.My labor co workers receive half/half salary for 1 month. I am really sorry about this people, because they have their families too.And this employer seems so cold on this issues.I need your advise on what to do on my part, and what to do for my countrymen working on his custody. i BADLY NEED YOU ADVISE SIR. THANKS AND GODBLESS

Expatguru said...

Erwin,

Your main objective now is to get out of here safely, so make the situation desparate that you definitely need to go out and get your exit visa stamped somehow. Regarding your friends, involve your embassy and when you reach home, spread the word in the local media as a service to your fellow countrymen. If possible file a case against your recruiting agent. Atleast he would not cheat others.

winson2k4 said...

Expatguru,
Erwin again here, thanks for that. actually my flight was really scheduled last friday(march6) as he agreed that i can get and confirm the ticket. I followed it up till wed(march4) because he promise me that i can go already. But he seems like playing, he told me, next week as we are waiting for the visa extension of the egyptian. Anyways we got argued little because im expecting that he will give what he promise. If ever he give me that this week, i thank God for that..but if not and seems to be playing,, i need an advise what to do, because my visa is going to expired by march 18. (im definetely overstaying).What he knows too, is that I have emergency, thats why im going home.. But what will i do, on the circumstances that i reach my timeframe? where can i get help on this matter? He really seemed furious and different person when we argue. I still have hope, that i can get out here...safely and help my coexpats here...

Expatguru said...

Erwin,

Looks like he is in no mood to release you. Wait till it is almost due for your departure. If it comes to break-even point, immediately contact your embassy.

winson2k4 said...

expatguru,
I am really worried that he might not give my passport this week. I dont want to get to a point where i reach my deadline of my visa. if this happen, what will i do?..is there any options i could do? to terminate my contract..what if i pay the cost of my visa, getting here.? is he going to be penalized for not giving visa in his employee?


erwin

Expatguru said...

Erwin,

You may probably end up paying for your return air fare and the visa charges. Try negotiating with your employer.

Siti said...

Dear Expat Guru,

I need some advice.My husband is currrently working in Jeddah.He has been there about 8months while me and the kids are still in our home country.Due to the economic downturn,my husband's employer has to release him with one month compensation pay.My husband agreed with that.In the meantime,my husband went to other 2 companies for job interview and he got both jobs.The problem is my husband's employer didnt want to transfer the iqama.How he should go about it?

Expatguru said...

Siti,

Your husband must insist on the new employer to issue a visa. If you plan to join him, then the visa must be of a supervisory category, not labor, painter, etc. Ask your husband to obtain a No Objection Certificate (NOC) from the current employer (he doesn't need it if he is an Indian national).

Siti said...

Thanks for the advice.My husband is Malaysian.I have told him about NOC and gave the labor office tel no(provided in your blog) to him in case if needs more clarification.If he gets the NOC,can he starts work with the employer straight away?

Expatguru said...

Siti,

No, you are wrong. NOC is just a piece of paper which says that the present employer has no objection to an employee working elsewhere. Your husband has to go out of the kingdom and re-enter on a fresh visa. The Saudi Embassy will stamp a fresh visa on your husband's passport only upon production of this letter.

Anonymous said...

Dear,
I am Filipino currently working as a secretary here in Saudi. One of our clients is offering a better package than to my present contractor (manpower supply). What do you think is the best way to transfer to other company? I heard about NOC alot.. what if my contractor doesn't give me an NOC? some are proposing to have or to get a NEW Passport if ever they do not give this NOC?

PLease advise..

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Please check from the Saudi embassy in Manila whether the NOC-not-required-rule has been implemented or not. This varies from country to country. If NOC is required, you can return only 1 year after you go on exit or 2 years if you go on an exit/reentry visa. Don't even try to come on a different passport, because if you go on exit, they will take your fingerprints and if you go on exit and return on a different passport, you stand the risk of being caught by any of your ex-company's employees/sponsor.

Anonymous said...

Dear Expatguru

Would you happen to have any info on how long it can take to transfer the iqama and what are the formalities i.e. is the degree required again, need to have a medical again etc? I understand that any such transfer must have the consent from the existing employer, which I have. Thanks for any info. I can get on this

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Please refer elsewhere in this blog in the archives for a very detailed post on the subject.

Mohammad Ali said...

Dear ExpatGuru,

Many thanks for your blog, it is most helpful. I have a related question, like an earlier post I am also faced with situation where my potential employer is suggesting I get a Pakistani iqama as they currently "do not have a Canadian iqama". I have been a Canadian now 17 years. What r the negatives of getting a Pakistani iqama, salary I have been able to negotiate to my satisaction. Drivers license, being treated differently by authorities.....some say that it is not so difficult anymore and as long as salary is negotiated I would not feel he difference. I feel there is more to this. Look forward to your help please.

Mohammad Ali

Expatguru said...

Mohammad,

What can I say? The decision is totally yours. I can only make a general comment that if someone thinks that this world is equal, he is in a fool's paradise. The world we live in is definitely racist, to put it bluntly, and whether you like it or not, this is the fact. You can make your own inferences and I do not want to comment any further than this.

Anonymous said...

Hi and your posts are very interesting. Our situation - I took a job in Saudi on family status. When I went to have my wife's visitor visa extended (it was about to expire) my employer told me it was good for 90 days after entry not 90 days from issue. They even made me an appointment to extend. About (2) weeks before I went back in to extend, I discovered that yep, that visa is expired. So I have an iqama but my wife is on overstay. Any suggestions? I really just want to exit her at this point.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

There is a SR10000 fine plus deportation at the expiry of your iqama. They are very strict about it these days. What I suggest is that you must definitely use a powerful 'wasta' (influence) and get the fine reduced. Also make sure through your wasta that there is no remark about the delayed departure in the system, as it would lead to your deportation after you iqama expiry. You may end up either paying a reduced fine or a pardon and an apology letter but everything depends on the mood of the Captain and the power of your wasta. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

I have two questions. I will be relocating to Khobar in July'09 (1st week as scheduled) on family status.
1. Earliest, how long will it take to bring my family (wife+ 1 daughter-13 yrs old)in KSA?
2. All our passports. will expire in June'2010. I would like to get all the passports renewed in KSA only. Is it possible?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Usually it takes about 3 months for your iqama to be made. Only after this can you bring your family. You can certainly get your passports renewed by your country's embassy in the kingdom.

Anonymous said...

Saudi Arabia has a 90 day rule for returning back to Saudi Arabia to work. Since information in Saudi computer is initially entered from a passport then to iquama if a person procured a new passport with a new passport number would this show that person has never been in the kingdom or do they use something else to determined if a person was in the kingdom in the past 90 days?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

First of all, there is no such thing as a 90-day rule. You can return to work as long as you have a valid exit/reentry visa. Now let's say you renewed your passport while you were in your home country. You have to bring both the old as well as the new passport while travelling. Entry to the kingdom will be given based on the reentry visa stamped in the old passport. Remember that by simply changing a book, you are only changing the passport of your native country, not the visa of Saudi Arabia on which your country has no control.

Anonymous said...

EG,
Your blog is really very helpful and we all appreciate your effort.
I will be relocating to Khobar. I have a specific question on Iqama medical.
1. After reaching Saudi Arabia, normally after how many days one is sent for Iqama medicals?
2. After how many days after the Iqama medical test, the test result will be available?

I would appreciate if you would be able to spare some time to reply.

Expatguru said...

It all depends on your sponsor. Usually, it is within 2 or 3 days after your arrival that you would be sent for medical and the results would be available within a day or two. I would advise you not to resign your current job until you clear the medical here.

KR said...

Hi Expatguru,
I am currently out of Kingdom & currently in India. I got married an year back and I took family visa for my wife. We are here on a vacation. I would like to update the spouse column in the Passport for me and my wife from the passport office in India. Will this have any implication on Visa for me and my wife returning back to Kingdom? Thanks.

Expatguru said...

KR,

It wouldn't matter. However, make sure to carry both the old and the new passports (if you are going to change the passport) when you return.

Anonymous said...

i was just wondering if you could possibly tell me if you leave the kingdom on exit visa what information do they keep in the computer when you have exited?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Your information in its entirety, of course. All they have to do is to just type your passport number and they have your entire history of every single transaction - right from telephone application to car accidents to criminal cases to credit cases - name it and it is linked to your iqama / passport number.

Anonymous said...

I Read your comment to Anonymous about what information they keep in their computer when you exit. My question if you return to the kingdom with a new passport and number can they cross that information to your old passport number

Expatguru said...

Absolutely, have no doubt about it. When you go on exit, the fingerprints of all the 10 fingers would be taken and entered in the database. When you return either with the same or a different passport on another visa, again your fingerprints would be taken. All it takes is one click of a computer to match the data and to know your entire history.

Mohammed Feroz said...

Dear Expat Guru,

First of all your efforts and support to the expats is greatly appreciate. We r very much happy wt your work and support.

I have send my family on exit/re-entry to India but unfortunately due to health reasons, she was not be able to return to Saudi within the exit/re-entry period. Now the exit/re-entry is expired.

Please advise how can I call her to Saudi again.

My Iqama is expiring after one year, can I send my iqama copy or letter from my sponser to Saudi Embassy at Mumbai to renew the exit/re-entry or what should I do please advsie.
Your prompt reply is appreciated


Please advise

NIYAS said...

Dear Sir,
I am working in saudi arbia, i would like to bring my wife here
unfortunately in my iqama the position is "COOK" as far as i know in this position
i will not able to bring my wife. Now i am working as senior technical support engineer
I am having 3 years diploma in computer hardware and networking engineering this certificate
attested in saudi embassy.
Sir would please advise me which postion i have to change to get perment family visa
apriciate your early response.

Expatguru said...

Mohammed,

Read elsewhere in the archives in this blog for a detailed procedure for this.

Expatguru said...

Niyas,

First find out if your sponsor has any supervisory position visa. Then apply for it. If your sponsor does not have any supervisory visas at hand, first of all he must apply for one. Of course this is a time consuming affair.

Anonymous said...

Hi expatguru,

Your replys have been very helpful for all.
I have a question about my iqama, i have been released by my recent employer w/ NOC and all the papers required to transfer me to another employer, but due to some delays the transfer process is taking some time and according to the person who processing my transfer all the requirements are already inside the Labor office and all we can do is wait. My question is will I be in trouble if my Iqama expires while it is in the transfer process? and Can I immediatedly go for vacation after the transfer is done?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

As long as you have with you the photocopy of your iqama with the rubber stamp of your current sponsor, you are safe. You will be able to go on vacation only after receipt of your iqama and with an exit/reentry visa.

Mr. Khobar said...

Dear Expat Guru,

Thanks for helping thousands of expats in Saudi Arabia and replying to the queries.

My query is that I want to go back to my home country on exit visa. I have already resigned, my employer doesn't want to loose me. So he is suggesting me to go back on an exit-rentry visa so that way, I can join the company. Now, I already have multiple exit-reentry visa in my passport (6 months) and my first departure from KSA was on 22 May '09. It means that my multiple exit-reenty is valid until 15th November (6 months). I have the following concerns:

1. If I go like a the end of October '09, what is the validity of my exit-reentry visa? When do I have to come back for saving my work visa?

2. My Iqama is valid until April 2010 and my work permit is valid until end of January 2010. If I am out of KSA at the time of expiration of my work permit and iqama, what will happen?

Looking forward to hear back at your earliest.

Kind Regards,

Expatguru said...

Mr. Khobar,

Please fill in the form using the link given in the top right hand side corner of this blog if you need a personalized reply. This is a paid service for a nominal fee.

Anonymous said...

Hi

I want to know that how many days before iqama expiry date one can get exit. lets say iqama expiry date is tomorrow can i get exit today.

Thanks in Advance

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

For final exit, you can get it even one day before iqama expiry. If iqama has already expired, you have to first pay the fine and then you will be given exit.

Anonymous said...

Is it a Saudi Arabian LAW that the sponsor must keep the employees passport, or is just now common practice for employers/companies to do so.
You valued response is appreciated.
Mr Zorba

Expatguru said...

Mr. Zorba,

There is no such law which requires the sponsor to keep his employees' passport. This has become a practice over the years. Even though there is some talk of giving the passport to the employees, in reality nothing has changed. In any case, even if you have the passport in your hand, you cannot go out of the country without an exit or an exit/reentry visa, which in turn requires your sponsor's approval, so what's the big deal?

Anonymous said...

Subhan Allah ,what you are doing is a great job by helping the whole expatriate community in kingdom.
Sir,i am in big problem right now. My husband Indian national was working in a company for 7+ years and den resigned to join new company last year September 2008 . He gave the resignation letter to old comp. But his boss was cunning type and did not give letter to administration, which resulted in him being held as “RUNAWAY”. When we gave iqama n passport to mandub of new company for transfer he went to jawadat n told tht ur iqama cannot be transferred as it shows in jawadat that ur runaway .And from there it went to tarheel.Our iqama has expired last year zil hajj 2008 and we are in deep mess. my husband actually is very innocent & it’s been I think more than one year my husband has been making rounds of old comp. to remove the gurub+renw iqama which is of no use as the boss under whom he worked left da company making our problem more complicated .But now after pressure from new comp. manager who intervened and talked with admin manager of old comp. ,they have given us some hope to remove gurub and renew da iqama but its been 2 months and they r telling now we cant help. we did not get benefits from old company also.
Sir please if you can help me in any way I will be thankful to you.
My question is what should be done now according to you.Can Indian consulate be of any help in my case ?
Secondly,I have children studying here and if suppose we have no option left and hav to go on exit, can I and my children transfer my sponsorship to my brother or sister(sister’s husband) or my nephew(sister’s son), sending my husband on exit.
Thirdly,will any school in this situation take my transfer as I am B.ed and I was in teaching profession for few months in india before coming to Saudi Arabia.

According to my problem ,If u want to give a personalized reply then let know me coz i am damn serious for any solution.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Madam, first of all do not lose heart. Almighty will bless and save those who believe in Him.

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mohammed said...

Expat guru,
I came 6 months back on a free(azad) visa through consultancy in india.Till now i did not get my iqama as the agent is plyaing hide n seek with me.My kafel is in riyadh and he has no idea who sold the visa's(almost 70 visas),as he says that its handiwork of his people who work under him.And he is in no mood to give iqama to anyone.My agent in jeddah does not know this kafel as he took from another agent in riyadh who has direct contact with kafel.So in all this all 70 people are affected.
My agent told that if he does not make iqama then he will gimme the money and do safe exit so i can come back within 1 month on new visa,Is that possible?
And one more thing my friend who came 2 months before me under same kafel got a fake iqama and agent lost his passport.Now he is cursing his luck and waiting for exit through tarheel.

Sir, can u give any solution.

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Anonymous said...

I need to know that for pakitani nationals,when they go for aqama renewals,do they again go for medical exam, last year I had aqama renewel and there was no medical examination required,is there any change this year?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

There is no need for any medical test before an iqama renewal, irrespective of your nationality.

Anonymous said...

Hi. May the force of the Allah be with you.

I am currently working as a teacher here in Riyadh and bearing a Foreign Language Teacher visa from the Ministry of Education. My question is... Is it possible to ask for a transferable IQAMA? If yes, from whom should I ask? My employer or MOE?

Thank you very much!!! God bless

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

There is no such thing called as a "transferable" iqama as such. If your sponsor decides to relinquish his visa and has no objection to you working for some other employer, then you will have submit a "demand" letter from your prospective employer to your current sponsor who will then do the required paperwork. Normally, sponsors do not agree to this as it would mean permanently jeopardizing their right to apply for a new visa of the same category. In your case, if MOE is your sponsor, you must approach them, though I am not too sure whether they would accept your request. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

i had an final exit visa and scheduled to leave this month and planned to go back to new employer. however, i still have pending credit card dues need to settle. will it affect my exit/re-entry?

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

Absolutely. You may get an exit visa stamped, but for sure you will be sent back at the airport. Clear every single halalah due by you and get out of the country on a clean slate.

Anonymous said...

I need legal assistance on my iqama when do i have to submit it?it will expire on february 17, 2010 and my contract will end on february 28,2010.if i will submit it to HR im afriad they will renew. i already sent a letter to HR that i will not renew my contract with my employer.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

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Asif said...

My nephew went to US on an Exit & Re-entry visa for his studies. He lost his passport in Chicago. He got another passport issued in US and has travelled to Pakistan. How can he come back to Saudi Arabia? His exit & re-entry visa is still valid.
Thanks

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Anonymous said...

Dear Expat Guru,

My iqama is expired. I'm currently in Jeddah, and I need to travel to Riyadh to have my iqama renewed. Can I travel via Saudia Airlines with expired iqama (but my passport is still valid)?

Thanks, please advise.

Xergio

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Anonymous said...

i'm an electronic engineer and i'm coming saudi on aluminum technician
plz tell what problems would i face if i come to saudi on this visa. plz reply me as soon as possible.
after coming to saudi on aluminum technician i want to bring my family and change my profession to engineer.

Expatguru said...

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Anonymous said...

Hello Expat Guru,
i am staying in KSA for the last years and i have renewed my passport 5 yrs back and go the nakal kafaala in to new passport successfully,since then never switched any job,..
now during the transfer my sponsor lost my old passport,
My Question ,for tranfer of sponsorship is old passport mandatory ?
is there any exception for that ?

thanks in advance....

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

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Anonymous said...

can u please tell me what is transferable iqama means.like requrement ,eleigibilty if anyone working on company visa can work in some other company.

Expatguru said...

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Passport Renewal said...

This is a great post many thanks for sharing this enlightening information.. I will visit your blog site regularly for some latest post.

Anonymous said...

This blog is extremely interesting. I would like to ask that if i was issued an exit-entry but i did not transfer the information to my new passport, can i get out of the airport. since last time they told me that i should transfer the information when i was at the airport and they let me go after 30 mins of talking.

thanks

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

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Anonymous said...

Hey. First time going through your Blog and it is so informative, especially to first timers etc etc with hopes of working / visiting KSA. My question is one perhaps you have received over and over but I will repeat it. I have been trying hard to get work in KSA through various websites without success. Can you advise me on how to go about it, or, do you recommend people for any positions? My experience lies in the field of administration, secretarial (PA). Any feedback is appreciated. I am willing to pay for personal communication as per your notification with regard to matters of a personal nature. Have a good day. Thank you.

Expatguru said...

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Anonymous said...

Hi,

I would like to know if it is possible to renew the Iqama of a dependent family after the Death of the father(sponsor) and his Iqama had expired six months back.

The Company which was sponsoring the Father had legally shut down before transferring his Iqama to a sister company.

Under the above circumstances what options are available for the family to stay in the Kingdom legally without having to obtain new visas.

Thanks and waiting for your replies

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

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Sam said...

Hello Sir,
Thanks for the blog and clearing so many doubts related to Saudi arabian expats. My question is "Can I renew my iquama, before 6 months of the expiry date? I would like to go six months vacation., but my iquama will be expire within 5 months.
Please help.

Expatguru said...

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Anonymous said...

Hi Sir,

I am a Malaysian who has just resigned as a financial analyst in an investment firm and had an offer for the same post to work in a local bank in Saudi. My current employer refuses to 'transfer' my Iqama to my future employer, so I have to exit and process my visa back in Malaysia. My questions: is NOC from my current employer required for
(a) work visa application in Saudi embassy in Malaysia
(b) showing to the immigration officer upon entering Saudi with the new work visa?

If my new employer wants me to re-enter under visit visa instead for 3 months as probation period, is NOC still required for both purpose (a) & (b)?

Please help and thanks.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,

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Anonymous said...

why Saudi Arabia government why not issuing visa for all who want to work in kingdom free for any where work but saudi Arabia government is sponsor this is not transferable visa but free working visa legally. Iqama renewal fee & free visa some working charges or lumsum amount incoulded Iqama charges Yearly and two years This persons only work Companies Factories, Establishments but legal way. This is my advice this one to not happen Illegal works. When you issue like this visa you should take two air lines ticket money. all responsiblity worker Insurance resdence nothing final benifits. In this visa works Keep his Passport is going Directly to Make Iqama Renewal and Exit re-entery give him all permit for worker. If think on my advice may be better for saudi people. If this worker any thing Illegally work as per saudi law panishment other all law is same. Noboady can leave from saudi without his finger print when come in saudi and when he leave saudi both side.If any thing did illegal government can catuch very easy. This my suggession. Thank you.

Expatguru said...

Anonymous,
I didn't quite understand what you are trying to say, but remember that it is their country and they make the rules.

Nadeem Shaikh said...

Dear EG,
Thanx for all your useful & Valuable comments.
I m having an indian passport which is about to expire on 4th march 2014, so want to ask you can i request for renewal of passport 6 month in advance?? like my passport is about to expire in march 2014 so can i request for renewal in september 2013?? please provide me you valuable comment on this.
Thanx in advance.

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Fakroddin Patel said...

my passport has expired and saudi iqama also expired on same date .. if passport date expired can i renew my iqama or not . passport is necessary for iqama renewal

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Anonymous said...

Hi Expatguru,

Need your advice. Im traveling in few days, my passport is less than 6 months before expiry. I already have an exit entry visa (details based on my old passport). Also, I applied and got a new passport now, just before my flight, I am concerned that the details in my exit entry visa are from my old passport and my old passport has been punched (two holes in the cover) to make it invalid since I got a new one. Will there be any problem with my exit entry visa? I heard about updating passports in jawasat but it will take a week or two, and im travelling in less than a week. What is the best thing I can do with this situation?

Expatguru said...

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vel said...

Dear Expat Guru ,
I am working as area manger in Saudi Arabia company in Riyadh
My company given me business visa for 6 months from 15 nov 2013 to 10 may 2013.Now I am working in this same company for last 3 months . Till I have validity of business visa is up to 10 May 2014. Now I have problem is Till I am not get Iquama and not provided by the company .
Now my passport has validity date is 10 Sept 2014. it means I have 6 months only .My original passport is issued from Trichirapalli , in India . Now I want get details as can I get renewal of my passport in the Riyadh office during the stay of business Visa by the company or I have to go to India for renewal of my passport .Because renewal of passport in India take more time ,even if I am applied talk service it will take 15 days .
Also If I applied the renewal passport as talk scheme in Riyadh /Jeddiah office of Saudi Arabia how may days it will take? .
what are the documents are required for the renewal of passport in the Riyadh of Saudi Arabia office .
Please reply in my personal mail velmurugan20110@yahoo.com If any consultant fees are there I will be pay you sir . These details are required most urgent .
Thanks and Regards
velmurugan

Vel said...

Dear Expat Guru ,
I am working as area manger in Saudi Arabia company in Riyadh
My company given me business visa for 6 months from 15 nov 2013 to 10 may 2013.Now I am working in this same company for last 3 months . Till I have validity of business visa is up to 10 May 2014. Now I have problem is Till I am not get Iquama and not provided by the company .
Now my passport has validity date is 10 Sept 2014. it means I have 6 months only .My original passport is issued from Trichirapalli , in India . Now I want get details as can I get renewal of my passport in the Riyadh office during the stay of business Visa by the company or I have to go to India for renewal of my passport .Because renewal of passport in India take more time ,even if I am applied talk service it will take 15 days .
Also If I applied the renewal passport as talk scheme in Riyadh /Jeddiah office of Saudi Arabia how may days it will take? .
what are the documents are required for the renewal of passport in the Riyadh of Saudi Arabia office .
Please reply in my personal mail xxxxx@yahoo.com (edited by Expatguru for privacy reasons). If any consultant fees are there I will be pay you sir . These details are required most urgent .
Thanks and Regards
velmurugan

Expatguru said...

Vel,

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Anonymous said...

Hey can u plz temme dt which date to be followed to return to kingdom if one,s electronic exit re entry contains 3 dates i.e.....1-iqama expiration date(6/9/14)
2- validity period of iqama(164 days from departure dt for example (8/10/14)
3- return before(27/8/14)

mohd noushad said...

dear expert guru
i worked in saudi arabia in 2009 to 2012 on house driver post.in last i have some problem with my sponsor and he filed a report in police station that my driver run away from my home and working another placed.after this police caught me and deport to india.
then i want to know about rules travels .because i want to go Dubai for work .i can go there without problem.please give me a safe advise

Qais ahmed siddiqui said...

dear expert guru,
my passport expired on 24th April 2015 so i already applied in dammam Indian passport application center, and this Saturday 14th June 2014 i get my new passport and suddenly i planned to take exit after my iqama expire, so expert guru i want to know that is i find any problem while i travell in india, coz my kafeel said that with ur old passport we cannot able to give u exit from saudia arabia.... so for this reason i m in so much stress, please solve my problem..
thank you (qas.bokaro@gmail.com)

Expatguru said...

Qais,

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